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submitted 11 months ago by rikudou to c/technology@lemmy.world

I guess we all kinda knew that, but it's always nice to have a study backing your opinions.

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[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

It's time for Google to die. They are a truly awful company now so it's time to take her down to the shed like ol' blockbuster

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 9 points 11 months ago

What will be replacing it? Bing?

[-] kzhe@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago

Kagi (although recent drama leaves me soured)

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I don't fathom paying to have your search history catalogued in correlation to your payment info. This will end as it always does, either hacked or enshittified.

[-] kzhe@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The fundamental difference is that Kagi is making money from having the better product, not from serving more/better ads.

[-] dco@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Love Kagi. What happened with recent drama? Must have missed that.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Kagi has started using search results from Brave's search index. The LGBT community disapproved of this because of past homophobic actions by Brave's CEO Brendan Eich.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Oh, that. Yeah, I'm not personally worried that they used it very lightly as one of a dozen sources and then stopped.

[-] kzhe@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

The problem was mainly their questionable response

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Fool me once...

Twitter has a similar problem. The more the CEO injects personal politics into the function of the site, the less confidence people have that a new search won't be fucked with. Whatever you might say about Google, Bing, and Yahoo, their owners have at least kept their politics closer to the chest.

[-] BobGnarley@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago

Thats a terrible reason to not use something that works well though. I mean the founder or CEO of any major bank is probably a shit person with bad takes like racism but does it make their banking service any less useful?

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't think so. Wiby limits its index to specific kinds of websites by design.

I imagine it's great for entertainment purposes, but not for the things you'd usually use a search engine for (gathering information, troubleshooting issues, etc.)

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago
[-] Swuden@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

No joke, I’ve been using Bing’s GPT-4 search and it’s helped me much more frequently than Google lately. AI might actually be where Bing out-competes Google.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Before we had Google, we had Altavista and before that we had indexes like Yahoo. Maybe we should consider going back. With the help of AI (I know...) it seems feasible to keep up with the ever growing content.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Maybe we should consider going back.

You can't really go back. Those old engines worked on more naive algorithms against a significantly smaller pool of websites.

The more modern iteration of Altavista/AOL/Yahoo has been the aggregation sites like Reddit, where people still post and interact with the site to establish relevancy. Even that's been enshittified, but its a far better source than some basic web crawler that just scans website text and metadata for the word "Horse" and returns a big listical of results based on a hash weighted by number of link-backs.

That system was gamed decades ago and is almost trivial to undermine in the modern moment. Nevermind how hard you'd need to work to recreate the original baseline hash tables that these old engines built up over their own decades of operation.

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