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You can look at it that way or you can look at it where Biden won't listen to the people who would elect him and decides to support genocide knowing it will probably mean he won't get re-elected. Why would you blame the voters when it's clearly one person who is making the wrong decision. Edit: it's crazy people are defending Biden while he's supporting genocide and blaming the people who refuse to support it and don't attack the president that doesn't listen to 70% of his own party. If he doesn't listen here why would he listen to us anywhere else.
Don't worry, the Trump genocide will be more direct.
Hope that you don't have any gay or trans relatives or friends!
I doubt the trump genocide could be more direct than isreals, he's not really that organized. I do have lgbtq friends and family which is why I hate Biden for being such a terrible person.
He's not working alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
When they march your queer friends and families into the camps, you can proudly say you didn't vote for "Genocide Joe."
I can't support someone who supports genocide plain and simple. Me not voting for Biden is not a vote for trump that's not how math works it's simply a tagline shitty politicians have used to get your vote when running against even shittier people. When all Palestinians are dead or forced to flee their land I hope you can say at least I'm ok because I live in America.
I'm sorry for them having someone who isn't an ally calling them friend.
I am an ally, I almost got my ass kicked for standing up for a friend in highschool. I got to marches I correct people or shame people for saying or doing homophobic shit. Don't talk to me about being an ally. I simply can't support someone who supports genocide plain and simple. It might not change anything and maybe trump gets elected and the Democratic party learns a lesson they need to actually listen to their party. But letting this shit show go on any further will slowly lead us down a path there will be no going back from.
If you don't support Biden, you support Trump.
Trump is not an ally.
Will you visit your friends and family in the camps?
"I'm sorry for not supporting Biden, I know that Trump nuked Gaza and declared himself King, but hey I voted my conscience."
Look, it's you!
https://lemmy.world/post/11141507?scrollToComments=true
"supports genocide" lol
He gave 100 million to Palestine for disaster relief, and his admin is currently in talks with netanyahu to try to get a ceasefire going.
Meanwhile the people actually responsible for mass civilian deaths just rejected a ceasefire proposal from Israel, which is Hamas.
Biden gave 14 billion to Israel and only promised 100million but still none has been given. I'm confused about your second point Israel rejected a ceasefire by Israel? Israel has killed over 20k civilians most are children and destroyed almost every hospital in the region, schools, apartment complexes etc cut off food, water and aid from outside. If that's not genocide idk what is.
Trump would send bulldozers into Gaza and build a new Trump Tower there. Built on the graves of the Palestinians. But yeah, let's blame Biden for the actions of a country that is under no obligation to do anything that we say. Netanyahoo actually wants Trump to win because he can go full genocide without limits.
And yeah Biden doesn't have too many options.
Do you want him to bomb Israel?
Yeah I don't think that that's going to happen.
I want him to not give them 14 billion dollars and say we won't give you anything else unless we can have peace talks. If you think we have no sway over there you are incredibly naive.
We're already not giving him money.
Congress can't agree to pass anything.
They're violating the rules on lethal aid.
It doesn't matter.
What are they going to do if we deny aid?
They'll go to China.
At least this way we have some influence.
China would be happy to take over the middle east from us .
Honestly they can have it.
Not seeing anything about that 100 million not going through, but I imagine it's difficult dispersing that when Hamas is getting their ass reamed non stop.
US provides humanitarian aid through the UN to Gaza: https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3600023/dod-airlifts-humanitarian-supplies-for-gaza/
The propaganda arm of Hamas, the health ministry, doesn't differentiate between civilian and child soldiers, especially the ones between ages 16-18 that Hamas loves throwing in the meat grinder.
Hamas rejects a 2 month ceasefire, probably because it means they wouldn't get to keep generating outrage by using their civilian meat shields: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-rejects-israeli-two-month-ceasefire-proposal-prisoner-swap-demand-leaderships-end
What I'm really trying to say is the belligerent force that enacted October 7th (a very purposeful targeting of unarmed civilians), has been commiting war crimes against civilians for decades (undirected Jerry rigged missiles), has lost several wars, has used child and adult suicide bombers, and rejected every peace proposal offered, is responsible for the slaughter of Palestinian civilians. And that is Hamas.
Why is one side held to a higher standard when the other side in only capable of acting like deranged animals? Literally anything you can accuse Israel of, Hamas has done worse.
The money is suppose to go to Palestine not Hamas you have shown your racism and that's the problem. Saying they cant get the money because Hamas has been getting their "ass reamed". Children in schools and hospitals are being sent into the meat grinder? A 16-18 year old is still a child are you trivilizing their death because they're close to being an acceptable death age by your standards? They refused to a cease fire till isreal leaves gaza sounds pretty reasonable. Should an invading force be able to take a ton of land then say alright now we stop fighting since we got what we want? You sound like a terrible person and would probably fit in well with the Republican party are you sure you're not voting for trump.
Oh no, my racism has been found out!
I think that's okay to say for a belligerent armed force that's losing the war it instigated.
And you're trivializing their actions, which is acting as soldiers in a warzone. But you should understand I don't think it's "okay" that children are being brainwashed into throwing themselves into a war. It's pretty despicable what Hamas is doing.
And Israel is tired of Hamas breaking ceasefires repeatedly for the last few decades and wants their civilian hostages back.
Should an sovereign nation accept being rocketed for decades after leaving Gaza completely, and then shrug their shoulders to an attack on their own civilians that killed 1000+?
Thanks, I'm a Bernie supporter who's begrudgingly voting for Biden because, despite him being a neoliberal mainstream Democrat, he's taking a middle ground and trying to negotiate with Netanyahu while providing humanitarian aid to Palestinian non combatants.