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[-] hollyberries@programming.dev 19 points 10 months ago

Disclaimer: not lived in the US in over 10 years

I'm Deaf and used to rely on interpreters. The ADA improved quality of life immensely, as I only needed to inform doctors, schools, and employers when I needed one, and they would provide instead of the burden being on me, the person who didnt ask to be Deaf. My right to an interpreter during interviews, performance reviews, and meetings was violated several times. After a few reports, that got resolved.

Now in The Netherlands? Thats another story, we desperately need an equivalent of the ADA here. The discrimination is DISGUSTING.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Netherlands doesn't have workplace discrimination laws?

[-] hollyberries@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

From my understanding, we do, to an extent (as in no one did anything about it) and up until this year no one cared enough to actually do something about it besides provide lip service. 1 January was when we got a new website and phone number to actually report things: https://discriminatie.nl The wonderful thing about that is, I can report past discrimination. Due to my Deafness, the recruiters are forced to communicate with me through email. I'm a data hoarder, which means, I've got receipts, bitch! lol sorry got excited there... but seriously, I've got quite a few emails turning me down for work, even at McDonald's.

The McDonald's one was the most infuriating one, as I worked at one for 3 years before moving to this city; my application was several months after I had moved. I had a good recommendation from my previous managers, and the new location still insisted on gatekeeping with "you're Deaf, how can you do this job then?" before any interview took place.

Some sources for the discrimination claims are linked below. I've translated the following titles word for word, with more correct translation in parentheses (articles are in Dutch, the site should work in any decent translator)

Women, foreigner, or limited (disabled)? Then often discrimination feelings at work:
https://www.nu.nl/economie/6288886/vrouw-buitenlander-of-beperking-dan-vaker-discriminatiegevoelens-op-werk.html

State's commission: racism and discrimination work everywhere through (throughout everywhere)
https://nos.nl/artikel/2501700-staatscommissie-racisme-en-discriminatie-werken-overal-door

In the same vein, in English - they're all from the same site, as I'm subscribed via RSS:
https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/16/state-commission-discrimination-occurs-everywhere-netherlands
https://nltimes.nl/2023/11/09/fifth-workers-international-roots-experience-workplace-discrimination-nl
https://nltimes.nl/2023/10/30/structural-discrimination-racism-among-civil-servants-dutch-municipalities-study

These are housing and racism (also English):
https://nltimes.nl/2023/09/07/housing-rental-agents-still-massively-cooperate-discrimination
https://www.iamexpat.nl/career/employment-news/how-to-deal-racism-workplace

That's just your everyday discrimination. I'm not going to bother to go into the recent elections and incoming policy changes that have left foreigners feeling quite unwelcome in this country.

[-] beanphanpy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you for all this information! I'm grateful for the ADA but never realized how lucky we are to have it in the USA. May I ask what motivated you to move to the Netherlands?

[-] hollyberries@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

A toxic and abusive family, and my partner (marriage) is Dutch. It was an easy decision!

This past year hasn't been easy and it was the first time I felt any regrets and a desire to return.

[-] beanphanpy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I see, thank you for answering my question! I hope this upcoming year treats you better.

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