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This is a safe place to discuss, vent, support, and share information about mental health, illness, and wellness.

Thank you for being here. We appreciate who you are today. Please show respect and empathy when making or replying to posts.

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The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

  1. No promoting paid services/products.
  2. Be kind and civil. No bigotry/prejudice either.
  3. No victim blaming. Nor giving incredibly simplistic solutions (i.e. You have ADHD? Just focus easier.)
  4. No encouraging suicide, no matter what. This includes telling someone to commit homicide as "dragging them down with you".
  5. Suicide note posts will be removed, and you will be reached out to in private.
  6. If you would like advice, mention the country you are in. (We will not assume the US as the default.)

If BRIEF mention of these topics is an important part of your post, please flag your post as NSFW and include a (trigger warning: suicide, self-harm, death, etc.)in the title so that other readers who may feel triggered can avoid it. Please also include a trigger warning on all comments mentioning these topics in a post that was not already tagged as such.

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For suicide hotlines world-wide: https://www.therapyroute.com/article/helplines-suicide-hotlines-and-crisis-lines-from-around-the-world

For trans people, NB or gender-non conforming people: https://trans-resources.info/

Trans resources

In a Crisis?
Trevor Project Connect to a LGBTQ understanding crisis counselor 24/7, 365 days a year, from anywhere in the U.S. It is 100% confidential, and 100% free.
Trans Lifeline Trans Lifeline’s Hotline is a peer support phone service run by trans people for our trans and questioning peers. Call us if you need someone trans to talk to, even if you’re not in crisis or if you’re not sure if you’re trans.
Suicide Hotlines and Prevention Resources Around the World Hotlines available internationally
RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) is the nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization. RAINN created and operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline (800.656.HOPE, online.rainn.org & rainn.org/es

Thought it would be good to copy over some resources from /r/trans and a few other places. I won't get all of them, so comment some more .


Resources------------------------------------ Descriptions
r/Trans Discord The official discord server of r/Trans
The Orchard If you are questioning your gender or would like to help people who are questioning their gender, The Orchard is a discord server meant specifically for this.
Trans Lifeline Resources More than just the hotline, they have a great page linking to many resources, including but not limited to... ID Change Library, Community-Based Crisis Support Resources, A Binding Guide for All Genders, Microgrants for some legal and medical fees, and much more you can easily search.
VRC Trans Academy Discord for a VRChat based Tans community with events and resources in discord and inside VR. (They even have free voice-training classes)
A Place For Marsha A Place for Marsha is one of many start-up projects aiming towards helping Trans individuals and families in increasingly dangerous states to a safer place.
The Trans Resistance Network (TRN) Formed to ensure the survival of gender diverse people and families through strategic coordination of resources for relocation, alternative systems of gender-affirming care, mutual aid, and community defense.
Erin’s National Informed Consent Clinics Map Erin Reed’s informed consent map lists every informed consent hormone therapy clinic.
UK Stonewall Housing If you’re LGBTQ+ and live in the UK, facing or experiencing homelessness, or living in an unsafe home Stonewall Housing can help.
Rainbow Passage Providing transportation for individuals in harm's way, with a focus on bringing them to the Sanctuary States and Cities. Safely escorting individuals to communities with the necessary legal, financial, educational, and medical resources to meet their needs.

For any recommendations please comment! This currently is just a combination of the old pinned posts. Suggestions are welcome!

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Hey folks. It's me, VubDapple. I'm a (not so active but still present) mod for this community and also a mental health professional. Recently there was some upset at this young community's rule about posts concerning suicide. I thought I'd offer a few thoughts about suicide and where things seem to stand right now. Sorry for the delay in my response; things have been rather busy in my life.

Suicide is a super frightening topic for many people - with good reason. As such, it is difficult to figure out how to manage discussion of suicide in a public and anonymous volunteer forum so that everyone's needs are best met. A few issues come to mind that have to do with such balancing of needs:

  1. How to balance the needs of people who want to discuss their suicidal thoughts against the needs of other people who would be triggered by reading it and would really like to avoid it? Suicidal ideation is really common within groups of people who self-identify as having mental health issues, so on the one hand it is reasonable to discuss it. On the other hand, the very nature of the topic feels dangerous to many, sometimes because it might trigger one's own suicidal thoughts and at other times because there is concern that if not handled properly any discussion could make the issue worse rather than better.

  2. How to know what the risk is that someone who is suicidal might actually attempt suicide? Many people who are suicidal are not in imminent danger, but some really are. Because this judgement is difficult to make, and because no one here including moderators is able to take on an actual care-giving clinical role, it is reasonable for us to treat all suicidal discussion as potentially dangerous.

  3. How to best care for a suicidal person? This community is simply not able to provide any actual suicide prevention service! There is nothing like /r/suicidewatch here at this time! The community is not staffed to care for an acutely suicidal person.

The recent rule adjustment (Rule #4) has been made to try to strike a balance between the competing needs of community members. Basically, it's okay to acknowledge the existence of suicidal thoughts or thoughts relating to self-harm but we want to discourage extended discussion of such topics, precisely because no one here is able to take on an extended care-giving role in the manner a professional caregiver would and because there is a reasonable chance or at least reasonable concern that extended discussion might make things worse than they already are. The best advice that can be given at this time would be to seek professional mental health care.

I can shed some light on how to know when suicidal thoughts are considered acutely and immediately dangerous and when they are not by providing the following psycho-educational information.

Mental health professionals divided the universe of suicidal thoughts into "active" and "passive" categories. I like to offer the metaphor of a "poison flower" to help people recognize how these categories work.

Suicidal thoughts are a developmental process that starts small and grows to become a threat. Think of a flower seedling - it is very small at first - just a shoot coming out of the soil. As it grows it develops tiny leaves and the stem gets larger, the leaves get larger, etc. in a developmental process. Eventually a bud forms, that bud opens and then we have a flower. The universe of passive suicidal ideation is just like this flower during its developmental phase eg., before the flower blooms. The universe of active suicidal ideation is like the flower after it has bloomed. Active suicidality is much more dangerous than passive suicidal ideation.

Passive ideation usually starts with a feeling of overwhelm; a sense that a person simply does not have what it will take to manage the situation they find themselves in. As it grows, the passively suicidal person becomes aware of the thought that they might be better off dead. Often this thought is frightening at first; the people who experience it do not want it there and see it as a sign that they aren't well. A further development of the suicidal process but still passive suicidality occurs when a person finds themselves fantasizing about how they might end their life. The thoughts may still be unwanted and at this phase of the developmental process there can be a sense of a growing struggle between the thoughts of dying and the desire to push those thoughts away. An even further development might occur when a person starts taking seriously the idea that they might actually kill themselves. At this late stage of passive suicidal ideation there may still not be what we call intent, but nevertheless the suicidal person may start researching how they would end their life.

The turning point between passive and active suicidality comes when three criteria are met: 1) there is intent to harm one's self, 2) there is a plan for how the person will harm themselves, and 3) the person has access to the means to harm themselves. The term intent means that the person has come to regard the idea of suicide as something they will carry out. The term plan means only that the person has picked a method for how they will die. You don't need to have a "good" plan (eg., one likely to be lethal) in order for it to count that you have a plan; any plan will do. Finally having access to the means for committing suicide means having access to the tools and materials that the person would use to end their life. When all three of these criteria are met, we mental health professionals consider the person to be actively suicidal. When the criteria are not all met then we consider people to be more passively suicidal.

Suicidal ideation is not a one-way process. People can move from not-suicidal to passively suicidal and then later to actively suicidal, but it is also true that actively suicidal people can exit their active suicidal status back usually to passively suicidal status, and then even later become not suicidal again. It's important to keep this in mind because of what some call the "suicidal trance" eg., the tendency, as a person becomes more and more actively suicidal, to believe that suicide is the only reasonable response to what appears to that person at the moment to be an endless and entirely hopeless set of life problems from which suicide is the only escape. Most of the time it isn't true that the person's life problems are actually endlessly hopeless, but it does tend to feel that way when you're in it.

There is no hard and fast rule for assessing danger here, but the general idea is that passive suicidality is less acutely dangerous than active suicidality; mostly because with active suicidality by definition there is intent to die and the person's energies are marshaled in the direction of finding a way to make that happen in a manner that is simply not the case when a person is more passively suicidal. Passive suicidality is dangerous in that it may become active later on, but most of the time when someone is passively suicidal they are not going to go home and kill themselves any time soon. Active suicidality is a crisis. The actively suicidal person needs help and they need it as quickly as it can be found. A good way to gain that help if there is no other resource around would be to go to a hospital emergency room and tell the staff there that you are actively suicidal. Such action might help best in the short term because at least in the USA (where I am located) the healthcare system is broken and there easily might not be follow up care provided which would be needed, but it might be better than nothing.

What sort of care does a suicidal person benefit from? If you know of someone who is suicidal and the right solution is not immediate hospitalization to contain a crisis that will unfold very very shortly if urgent measures are not taken, then what is the right solution? It used to be the case that mental health professionals were trained to ask suicidal people to "sign a no-suicide contract" whether actually or metaphorically. It turns out that this doesn't help much. These days, in addition to whatever therapy they may provide mental health professionals are trained to help passively suicidal clients by helping them complete a Suicide Safety Plan.

The Suicide Safety Plan is simply a list of resources that the suicidal person can think about when they are tempted by the possibility of harming themselves. It is designed to help a suicidal person to maintain perspective about their larger situation even as the "suicidal trance" beckons them to die, and to remind the suicidal person of the techniques they can use or the resources they can call upon if they are feeling especially tempted.

Anyone can make a Suicide Safety Plan by answering the following questions:

  1. What are the warning signs in your behavior that signal that you are becoming increasingly suicidal?

  2. What are the ways you have available to calm or sooth yourself that might lessen your need to suicide?

  3. What can you do to make the environment safer for you (like getting rid of the means of harming yourself)?

  4. What are reasons for living? Often this one boils down to "Who would be harmed if you were to die?"

  5. Who in your personal life can you talk to about how bad things are?

  6. Who are the healthcare professionals you can call on if things get really bad?

I know what you might be thinking! A lot of people looking at these questions have told me that they can't see it coming, they don't know how to sooth themselves, there are no valid reasons for living, they have no friends or people who care about them and that they can't access healthcare because it is too expensive (which is often true in the profit-obsessed USA unfortunately). Even so, it is worth trying to engage with these questions so as to write out methods and names and resources as well as you can. Even a little bit of hope and a little bit of planning in advance can become critical in a crisis, making the difference between life and death.

A final word about reasons for living. Many times suicidal people have told me that even though they have children or loved ones, that their children will be better off without them alive. Such is the warping influence of the suicidal trance which commonly argues that the suicidal person is and can only be a burden and that children or loved ones will be better off without them. This simply isn't true. Children get FUCKED UP when their parents commit suicide. Loved ones get FUCKED UP when their loved ones commit suicide. Particularly for children who lose their parents to suicide, the effect is to traumatize them rather permanently for the rest of their lives. I have seen it up close and personal. Nothing I might say can make the influence of the suicidal trance less strong, but at least hear me in that this part of what that trance says is a lie. Nothing good comes of suicide except maybe that your own personal pain is discharged. The others around you will suffer. If you don't want to contribute to the suffering of others, please consider looking for another way. That other way might be very hard to find or very expensive to access, but when it is life or death, it's a good investment to make.

General Suicide Information

https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/index.html

Suicide Helplines In the USA: call or text 988

https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp

https://blog.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines/

Suicide Safety Planning:

https://www.verywellmind.com/suicide-safety-plan-1067524

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-recovery-coach/202306/how-to-develop-a-safety-plan-to-manage-a-suicidal-crisis

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Hi all. I have briefly tried therapy over and over again, but could never find something that seemed to be a fit for me. So I could never stick with it more than a few sessions. I always had trouble describing what my issue was and I never liked the methods of any given therapist. Either they used CBT, which I find invalidating and victim blaming (I've always been taught that my thoughts and feelings are wrong...so this just makes it worse for me) or they used "talk therapy", which seemed incredibly pointless and gave me zero benefit.

I just started seeing a therapist who seems to use DBT techniques. At first, it seems a little less shitty than CBT because it doesn't want my emotions to go away or try to rationalize them away. It wants me to accept that I will have strong emotions and I need to figure out how to deal with them.

DBT still feels a bit victim blamey to me though to a degree. I've always been frustrated at how powerless I am and how people are allowed to do bad things to others and you just have to deal with it. So in that regard DBT seems more of the same of the frustration I've always felt. "It's your fault that you feel and react this way. You can't change the fact that people are horrible to you and others. You just have to deal with it and they get to do whatever they want." Been a lifelong frustration for me.

I have many problems in my life, but more recently I have discovered that one of my main ones seems to be "emotional dysregulation". I've struggled with having strong emotions even in childhood, where I would be chastised by my parents for it. My parents didn't abuse me, but it was frustrating that I was never heard.

Medication wise, I have been on an SSRI since the springtime, but couldn't tell if it made any noticeable difference. So my provider is having me taper off the SSRI and try lamotrigine instead (note that I do NOT have bipolar disorder).

Part of the problem is that I have long stretches of being totally fine interspersed with occasional episodes of extreme duress/issues. So normally when I see a provider, I feel totally fine and it's difficult to adequately express (or even sometimes remember) how significant my issues are. When I really need an appointment because I'm in crisis mode, I can't get one that soon. This pattern is part of the reason why I'm trying out lamotrigine.

Anyway idk just looking for your experiences. Thanks all. Sorry about the life story lol!

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Some info: 22M, looking to move out. It started last weekend when we were discussing politics, she got mad and loudly called me an idiot. Outside, public street btw. A bit before this she also screamed at me in a minimarket for me not wanting to put my backpack in their storage boxes. Lol.

I get she was tired but she didn’t even apologize until later home when I told her about it.

Then next night I had some dreams about all the stupid shit I had to through as a kid of hers. I woke up with a disgusted taste about her and I didn’t want to talk with her anymore.

It’s been a 6 days, where I continually ignored her. She keeps coming at my door asking to “repair things”. You can’t repair 22 years of negligence. I told her that I need space and time and I will talk to her after. She keeps going against my boundaries and asks what’s wrong. Since I’ve already told her, now I’m blasting music on my headphones because it seems she can’t understand how to accord private space. She has the mentality that “I’m your mother hence I can do anything”

Now she talks nice but I know it’s just a matter of time. It’s a manipulation tactic to get me back. She doesn’t actually feel sorry.

Thanks for reading.

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Before everything, why do I not go to a therapist? Money. I want to though.

I observed that whenever I get to like someone, I am beginning to copy their traits. This happens with anyone, friends, lover or even a random youtuber. I believe it is affecting me at the core, making it harder to tell myself who I really am.

The first occurrence of this is when I told my mom in 2nd grade that I wanted to be “cool” like the other classmates. It was something small at the time and no one questioned why was that.

This evolved over time, slowly. I’ve learnt things I see others I liked did. I wouldn’t have learnt because I found curiosity in the specific object, I learnt because they did it.

Years later, in high school I found myself with a best friend. Subconsciously I began copying his traits, way of speaking, mannerisms, even clothing style. It’s like I was a copy of him. I was blending with him.

Then we had a fight and friendship ended. I was devastated, I did not know who I was anymore. I spent a large amount of time alone, dwelling into spirituality and meditation.

A year later, I get into a relationship. It started alright, until one triggering experience. She went into a trip with her friends. Irrationally enough, even if I was invited but didn’t want to go, I felt fear of abandonment. That triggered a part of me which made me develop a severe anxious attachment towards the other person. I started checking up on her 24/7, talk with her 24/7. I wanted for us to “become 1”.

This was too demanding for her and we broke up. I was devastated again. It felt like a part of me was tore apart.

Now, 2 years later, I’m observing a pattern.

There’s clearly a fear of abandonment, which may came from multiple sources, I’ll shortly brief some here

spoilerEmotionally neglected by both parents. Bullied by my uncle at age 5, would get physically and emotionally abused for no reason, bullied in high school for my looks: beaten up, etc.

As lost as I am, I think there’s some signs of BPD. I read some posts and I relate to them.

Thanks for reading.

I feel dumb writing this, my mom would tell me to quit thinking like this ;-;

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Its like 4am where I am, so yea, sleep schedule is totally fucked up.

In the dream, I there was argument and I don't even know what it was, and then he sounded agressive and I think he either had a knife or was about to throw something at me, then I woke up.

But like jesus christ, it just brings up my old memories again.

So like 17-20 years ago, I had a fight with my older brother, I was like 6, 7 maybe, and like idk what it was even about, he chased me around the apartment and tried to beat me, and in an even earlier instance, I remember he once tied me up using plastic zipties when no one was home. But anyways, back to the day of that fight, I remember running away from home, maternal grandmother was home, she didn't do anything about my abusive brother, my mother was at work so I went looking for her. Her workplace was like 30 minutes bus ride away, I just sneaked onto a bus (the driver didn't care), went there (I knew which bus stop it was because she took me to work sometimes) didn't find her at work, then went back home she was already looking for me (grandmother called my mother).

Those few hours were the most alone I ever felt in my entire life, if was one of my my earliest traumatic events, probably the biggest one as evident by the fucking nightmare I just had, it still haunts me to this day.

Then my mother later told me that if she didn't find me, she wouldn't really miss me that much if I got kidnapped, she would've just pretended like she only had one child. Which just adds insult to injury.

This was in mainland China, there were never any CPS or anything, there is zero social services (tbf even in the US this was terrible too)

My mother told me that kidnapping were frequent (supposedly), but the police of couse doesn't do shit about it. Idk if it was fearmongering, I don't know which words were true or false.

There are just so many narritives that I can't be sure what is the truth anymore.

She told me that when she had me, my older brother started to get jealous, since now the attention wasn't all on him anymore.

There was a One Child Policy at the time, having an only child was the norm. My older brother was about like 5 or 6 when my mother got pregnant the second time, so yea, idk what his thought process was, but from his PoV, it would seem like every kid was the sole focus of their parents, then there was us, parents have to split this focus. I was the younger one so they paid attention to me more, so he probably got jealous of the attention. That probably culminated in this toxic relationship. At least this is my theory, I'm not a mindreader.

Then we moved to the US, grandmother can't be on the same immigration visa, since only spouses and children can be added to my father's visa.

But the same thing with parents going to work then leaving us at home happened, again, this time without grandmother.

So yea, its Lord of the Flies basically.

My mother made my brother pick me up from school, in which he resented me for having to do this task, even tho it was mother who assigned this task of picking me up from school.

But I think this tauma was basically why I never made friends and was a loner all the time. My brother destroyed the social part of my brain.

And my mother also then signed me up for after school bullshit to use as essentially free babysitting. It was fucking miserable, I was barely fluent in english the first few years, so I wasn't able to make any friends. Most of the Chinese Americans peers were born in the US, so yea, language barrier.

And worst of all, some of the afterschool programs were run by Chinese Americans, so yea... the same toxic conservative culture and tiger parenting style in those afterschool "teachers" (not really a teacher, didn't teach shit, felt more like an abusive babysitter).

Then in summer, she made me go to some "summer school"/"summer camp" bullshit, also run by these shady organizations.

What. The. Fuck?!?

I had like nearly 365 days of school during my first few years of schooling, and it went from 7AM to 6PM.

What the fuck?!?

Can I just say: Fuck the Brooklyn Chinese-American Association and fuck the Chinese-American Planning Council. "Helping Chinese Americans in Brooklyn", "after school programs", yea suuurrre, what a fucking lie. I wanna fucking sue them for psychological torture. Is that too late?

So, here I am, a blob of depression and broken af.

Sorry for the rambling. Still recovering from the shitty nighmare.

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