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I played a bit with img2img and no prompt (or just a style, like anime) And even though my first reaction was *Oh cool, I'm a girl ! * to Why does AI always turns me in a girl ?

Here is a little experiment starting with the same image, a photo of a dude with a red T-shirt with a city panorama in the background (I won't publish the original photo), and I give zero other guidance (no prompt, no style) The two stable diffusion model would give "male character' while Dreamshaper and Meinamix would give feminine character. I've done a second generation with Meinamix and Dreamshaper giving female character again.

Second experiment Same dude as above (OP) but with long hair and a pink-doublet over a white shirt. Here I would understand that AI gets confused (Even though I don't see why only girl could get long hair and wear pink clothe)

So the result, is like Dreamshaper and Meinamix are pretty close from my original clothing. Stable Diffusion 1.4 and Meinamix definitly choose a lady, Dreamspaher is more ambiguous but still on a feminine part of the gender spectrum, and stable diffusion 2 gives shit but let's say that the beards make-it male. But again, these model do pretty great at "drawing my clothing" but seems biased toward female-passing result.

While writing that post I've done a few new generations with meinamix I got 2 guys out of 6 images (1 out of 6 with Dreamshaper), so here is one pretty close of the original photo

Obviously, it's not a statistical study, I know that I could easily add a "negative prompt". But this triggered my curiosity and was a fun experiment to do.

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[-] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe it’s because of the shirt color?
But yes, I’ve found biases to certain elements all over the place. You want a drawing with x, then the AI is obsessed with including y as well. But only when it’s a drawing, photos will come with z instead.
So maybe in this case something something red something something will usually end up as a girl without further input.

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

For the second one, A pink doublet and long-hair definitly put weight in the female category, and I can see how a model can get confused. So i was expected to see ladies coming-out.

But for the first-one ? A red T-shirt isn't something pretty gendered.

I think I'll do a bunch of other tests, using less known actor

[-] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's as simple as matching human sensibilities with an AI's algorithm.
What might be obvious to us, might not be the same for it.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Try with neutral clothing colors as well, like gray or tan, to rule out the “pink is just a shade of red, so red=girl” possibility.

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

An attempt with a black T-shirt and the xxmix9realistic_v40 model (I am also just trying out random model) glad to see that AI thinks I am that cute :)

But I finally got the first Sexy-guy from the same photo original photo (SD 1.5, style = fantasy )

I'll try to collect some extra stats on Sunday using a few popular model and a set original image I can share. But I am eager to believe that there is a bias.

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