Edit I'm just gonna delete this soon. I posted it and made most of my comments while angry and looking for blood. yea a lot of cringe stuff got said on that post but I don't think my post is contributing anything to the sub other than anger, and possibly driving people away. Sorry to the people I snapped at, I hope yall have a good night🐕
The comments are full of people saying transphobic shit and op doubling down on his "making your trans partner feel dysphoric is fine" shit. He'll that pic was a re-upload from one of the mods here. What the fuck!!!! This is fucking 196 why are we out here defending blatant transphobia? People are in there calling trans people karens with a persecution complex, there's tons of defense of treating trans men like shit, "allies" telling trans people they're overreacting, all kinds of inexcusable shit. If this is how lemmy 196 is gonna be I hope this place crashes and burns
Hi, you had a comment deleted by moderators. I can see in my notifications "Good question, why don't you try answering it rather than..." but I can't see the rest.
Since there's no PMs available I created a magazine here where you can respond without getting banned/removed: https://kbin.social/m/Aesthesiophilia/t/228533/EndlessApollo
If you want
Edit: also anyone else who wants to cuss me out or something without being banned/removed please feel welcome, just don't spam
I'm on mobile and busy rn so I can't do that, I'll just copy and paste my comment here and come back later
Good question, why don't you try answering it rather than continuing to shit on the people you call yourself an ally to? If the answer is "I wouldn't date a non-op trans man" then just fucking say that instead of insinuating that you would date them and treat them like shit
I would totally date a pre-op trans man if they were okay with me liking their boobs.
Gotta be a pretty rare scenario, but if it happens, sure
There's a trans man who posts some nsfw pics that I follow, and his philosophy is "please enjoy my boobs while you can, bc as soon as I can afford it I'm cutting em off". If I knew him irl, I'd enjoy the boobs irl. But even then, he'd have to be pretty nonchalant to not get triggered or depressed by my appreciation of his feminine body, so I dunno if it could work out. Not to mention the more masculine he gets (hormones, surgery, etc) the less I'd be physically attracted to him. So definitely a short term thing.
Alright so, having read only the image OP posted and this comment here, I don't really think you're being transphobic at all, only expressing your sexual preferences, which is fine. No one should feel pressured or forced to "like" something they don't, specially in this context.
I get why people might get a bit nervous about the specific words you used, and maybe I didn't get to read something that might be deleted but...
I think you're ok.
"They would be straying away from what I personally find attractive, and the fact they could be uncomfortable with what I'd be attracted to would be something hard to deal with for both parties involved" is what I understood you meant.
This is why we're saying it's transphobic. It doesn't sound like you view pre-op trans men as men. You're attracted to women, and that's fine, but trans men aren't women.
I'm not attracted to any particular gender. I am attracted to female sex organs. If those organs are attached to a man, still find em attractive.
They consistently refer to trans men with masculine pronouns. You're not going to get that out of people who don't actually believe it.