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Keep in mind that software doesn't have an expiry date. If a piece of software is unmaintained and doesn't have an active fork but it still fulfills your use case and doesn't have any major issues, there's no need to replace it. Some of the software I use hasn't seen any updates in five years but I still use it because it still works.
Edit: As an example, a lot of people still use WinDirStat even though the latest release 1.1.2 is now 17 years old.
I'd say that problems mostly come from the need to update dependencies in case of vulnerabilities being discovered. But not every software needs elevated privileges or can become a vector of attack, I guess
If a software is compromised to allow remote code execution, then the situation is pretty dire even without elevated privileges.
Basically your entire userspace will be compromised, and in terms of personal computing that is pretty much all you can lose.
Desktop - Linux - Yes, likely. If not, here's a flatpak
Desktop - Windows - Maybe it still runs in a compatibility mode?
Desktop - iMac - Here's an emulator, good luck.
Mobile - PostMarketOS - Yes, likely. If not, here's a flatpak
Mobile - Android - Maybe? Try it and see if you get permission denial
Mobile - iPhone - Fuck you, no.
Windows is pretty good with backwards compatibility, probably the best out of anything. I can run Visual Basic apps I wrote in the early 2000s on Windows 11 and they still run fine. Some old 32-bit games work fine too. You can even run some 16-bit Windows 3.0 apps on 32-bit Windows 10 if you manually install NTVDM through the Windows features (it was never ported to 64-bit though)
Linux is okay for backcompat but I'm not sure an app I compiled 20 years ago would still run today.
Tell that to video games, which constantly need a compat mode enabled
The fact that a compat mode exists means that Microsoft put effort into backwards compatibility. Windows even emulates some old bugs for old popular apps that depended on them. I don't think any other OS does that.
I don’t like Microsoft Windows at all, but you are absolutely right about doing a good job with backwards compatibility.
Linux isn’t so backwards compatible, but with much of it having open source code, you can often compile it again yourself—tho having been written in a language that offers good backwards compatibility also helps.
Wait, flatpak works on PostMarketOS?
Yep! It's the default on things like phosh and gnome mobile for packaging apps
WinDirStat works but is super slow though. WizTree is a much better modern equivalent.
I do like Wiztree, but WinDirStat is still pretty common to see. The 2005 version of WinDirStat still gets around 60,000 downloads per week according to the Sourceforge stats. https://sourceforge.net/projects/windirstat/files/windirstat/1.1.2%20installer%20re-release%20%28more%20languages%21%29/stats/timeline
I was just using it as an example of old software that people still use :)
Isn't WizTree a lot faster?
I use windirstat almost monthly and have never heard of WizTree. Keeping this in mind for next time I use it.
Though at this point, maybe I should just commit honestly
Just do it. I was hesitant as well but now there's no going back. It's actually like 5x faster.
It is. I was just using WinDirStat as an example of an old app that people still use. The 1.1.2 release from 2005 is still downloaded 60,000 times per week according to the stats on the Sourceforge download page.