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[โ€“] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbh, Germany and Japan are probably the strongest industrial powers after China.

They do matter still imho and need to be decoupled from the US.

[โ€“] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

That might happen, especially in Germany where there's growing public anger now over the declining material conditions. I think once it becomes conclusive that the war is lost and once Trump gets into power in US, the current political establishment will be utterly discredited.