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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org to c/mechanicalkeyboards@lemmy.ml

I'm not a true mechanical keyboard enthusiast. I mean I like a good keyboard for typing code, so I rolled with model-Ms in the 80s and 90s, then some expensive Cherry keyboard I only recently retired because it was utterly spent (and it was PS/2), and now I happily use a Wooting Two HE.

I'm so glad the mechanical gaming keyboard scene has developed so much: it means there's a plethora of really excellent keyboards for the rest of us who don't play games.

But something utterly baffles me: why are high-quality keyboards getting smaller?

There's a lot more keyboards without the numpad and the block of middle keys - whatever they're called - or with the middle keys reduced or squashed up awkwardly on the side, than full-size plain old 102- or 104-key layout keyboards. What's wrong with the numpad? Isn't more keys generally better?

Back in the days, I bought the original Happy Hacking keyboard because it kind of made sense to maneuver around in our server room with a small keyboard that took up less space. Typing on it drove me up the wall but it was convenient to carry. And I guess it was also good option for going to LAN parties with a smaller backpack. But other than that, for a keyboard that never leaves your desk, I don't get it.

Are there other advantages to smaller keyboards? Genuine question! I'm not dumping on smaller keyboards: to each his own and if you're happy with yours, more power to you. I'd just like to know why you prefer smaller.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 9 months ago

I like having more real estate for the mouse

It seems many people who answered here also want a smaller keyboard to position the mouse closer to the centerline, or make room for the mouse.

Perhaps I should mention my own setup then: I don't use a mouse ๐Ÿ™‚ I use this - rather confusingly named - fabulous trackball: the Kensington Expert Mouse:

This is the best trackball ever. It's been around for many years. People who like trackballs swear by it, and I can't do without it.

The trackball is right up against the keyboard. So even though I use a full-size 104-key keyboard, the "mouse" is ergonomically placed and doesn't require a lot of space.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

How does a trackball hold up when playing vidya that requires a mouse normally? RTS, ARPG, Indie Rogue lites, FPS, basically anything that may require twitch, precision and traversal.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, I'm not much of a gamer. But I regularly play Quake1, 2 and 3/Arena - which are traditional WASD + mouse games despite being old, and I have zero trouble aiming quickly and accurately, even far targets that are single-pixels. The Kensington has a big ball that really helps for fine control.

Of course, there's a learning curve, as with all trackballs. But once your favorite trackball becomes second nature, the (small) effort really pays off. I've used trackballs almost exclusively for 30 years and I've settled on the good old classic Kensington Expert Mouse, that's a beloved favorite of musicians who lack desk real-estate in their MIDI setup, server room warriors like me, and just about anybody who wants a precise mouse without having to sacrifice space. Also, there is something to be said for always having the same controls at the same place all the time when you need to move the cursor: that too reduces hand fatigue.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

What a coincidence. I just dusted off my quakeworld client yesterday. How does performing an unscripted RJ with a trackball compare to a mouse?

I've seen people swear by the ploopy. Have you had your hand on one?

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How does performing an unscripted RJ with a trackball compare to a mouse?

I just tried it again in case there was some difficulty but no: it's just fine. The thing is, this trackball is exaclty as comfortable and efficient to me as your mouse is to you. So really there never is any difference in terms of usability. You'll never catch me being slower or less precise with that thing, because I've been rolling with one Kensington Expert Mouse or another since the late 90s ๐Ÿ™

Iโ€™ve seen people swear by the ploopy. Have you had your hand on one?

I have not. Like I said, I've been totally satisfied with the Expert Mouse for decades, so I've never had any need to change.

But I did look it up and I can tell you rightaway what will drive you up the wall: it doesn't have a scroll wheel. The Expert Mouse does (it's a ring around the ball) and I don't think I could live without it. Other than that, it sure looks interesting. I do like the open design.

EDIT: Actually nevermind: I see it has some button to use the ball as a scrollwheel. Interesting... I might just order one.

[-] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I'm much more a fan of the thumb trackball Logitech used to make:

https://www.newegg.com/logitech-910-001799/p/24W-001B-00008 as an example.

I've seen red or blue marble varieties. I think I've owned both, have bought like 5 of these over the years.

Currently using just a regular optical mouse, because it came with the keyboard, and is bound to the same usb plug, but I think I have one somewhere.

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