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submitted 10 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

The White House wants to 'cryptographically verify' videos of Joe Biden so viewers don't mistake them for AI deepfakes::Biden's AI advisor Ben Buchanan said a method of clearly verifying White House releases is "in the works."

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 56 points 10 months ago

Huh. They actually do something right for once instead of spending years trying to ban A.I tools. I'm pleasantly surprised.

[-] CyberSeeker@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bingo. If, at the limit, the purpose of a generative AI is to be indistinguishable from human content, then watermarking and AI detection algorithms are absolutely useless.

The ONLY means to do this is to have creators verify their human-generated (or vetted) content at the time of publication (providing positive proof), as opposed to attempting to retroactively trying to determine if content was generated by a human (proving a negative).

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -5 points 10 months ago

I mean banning use cases is deffo fair game, generating kiddy porn should be treated as just as heinous as making it the "traditional" way IMO

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yikes! The implication is that it does not matter if a child was victimized. It's "heinous", not because of a child's suffering, but because... ?

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -5 points 10 months ago

Man imagine trying to make "ethical child rape content" a thing. What were the lolicons not doing it for ya anymore?

As for how it's exactly as heinous, it's the sexual objectification of a child, it doesn't matter if it's a real child or not, the mere existence of the material itself is an act of normalization and validation of wanting to rape children.

Being around at all contributes to the harm of every child victimised by a viewer of that material.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I see. Since the suffering of others does not register with you, you must believe that any "bleeding heart liberal" really has some other motive. Well, no. Most (I hope, but at least some) people are really disturbed by the suffering of others.

I take the "normalization" argument seriously. But I note that it is not given much credence in other contexts; violent media, games, ... Perhaps the "gateway drug" argument is the closest parallel.

In the very least, it drives pedophiles underground where they cannot be reached by digital streetworkers, who might help them not to cause harm. Instead, they form clandestine communities that are already criminal. I doubt that makes any child safer. But it's not about children suffering for you, so whatever.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Idk, making CP where a child is raped vs making CP where no children are involved seem on very different levels of bad to me.

Both utterly repulsive, but certainly not exactly the same.

One has a non-consenting child being abused, a child that will likely carry the scars of that for a long time, the other doesn't. One is worse than the other.

E: do the downvoters like... not care about child sexual assault/rape or something? Raping a child and taking pictures of it is very obviously worse than putting parameters into an AI image generator. Both are vile. One is worse. Saying they're equally bad is attributing zero harm to the actual assaulting children part.

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