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Fox show hosts said Taylor Swift "should be conservative" given her background, because to them it's an identity. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by someguy3@lemmy.ca to c/general@lemmy.world

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This only makes sense when I realize that to conservatives, it's an identity. They think it's an identity that Taylor Swift should have because she's (presumably) white, popular, rich, good looking, Midwestern, Christian, etc.

To them politics is not about ideas, or policies, or problem solving, or good governance. It's all about identity.

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[+] novibe@lemmy.ml -19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are just describing all Liberal ideologies (which modern conservatism is - I don’t mean liberal in the USA sense)… it’s all vibes and identity, it’s pure ideology without any material analysis. Things happen because of “ideas”.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the parentheticals are being lost on some.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Normally I'd take this chance to complain about liberals not being able to define liberal, but it's more than a fair point these days that "conservatives" aren't liberals anymore. They should be, to be "conservative" about the society they grew up in.

The modern American conservative now:

Hates liberals

Especially hates socialists

Rejects the idea of human rights

Rejects democracy

Wants a single, possibly hereditary leader both above the law and above criticism

Wants to reestablish colonialism/strong imperialism

Wants an ethno state or theocracy

Is wildly nationalist and xenophobic

Anyone want to pipe in with what that actually makes them?

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t think so… people just don’t understand what I mean by liberal I guess. Not their fault, politics is totally fucked in the US.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Nah I understand what classically liberal means, it’s the rest of your comment that was nonsense.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I agree to the point where I literally emigrated