What's going on with kbin.social? (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by Eggyhead@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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It's been inaccessible for roughly 24hrs right now and I'm having a hard time finding any group talking about it. Was there a change recently, or some kind of an explanation posted?

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

I’m not one to knock a developer on their software. Making things like kbin are complex and they certainly take effort to maintain and improve. That being said, these are my complaints about the management of kbin:

Why is there hardly ever any feedback from Ernest about why kbin is down? It just comes back up and that’s the end of it, until the next outage. A link to an explanation, or detailed banner message, or a schedule would be nice, assuming that these outages are scheduled.

Why has Ernest insisted on being the only developer to work on this? This creates a potential “single point of failure” situation.

None of the git issues on Codeberg seem to get triaged or responded to.

Ernest rarely responds to DMs on kbin.

At this point, I think I’m just going to create an alternate Lemmy account to avoid these blackouts.

[-] stevecrox@kbin.run 15 points 9 months ago

MBin is a fork by a group who tried to push into KBin but couldn't. There seems to be at least 4 active committers and stuff gets merged.

You will see a number of the KBin instances moved over https://fedidb.org/software/mbin

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 3 points 9 months ago

I created an acount on kbin.run (which is mbin) earlier today. I tried on the most populous mbin instance, but the request page throws 429s and the contact page 500s. This morning, I was ready just to go back to reddit for a bit (I didn't care for Lemmy, but I guess I would give it another shot before that).

[-] debounced@kbin.run 10 points 9 months ago

hi, kbin.run admin here, i wanted to confirm that the 429 and 500s you're seeing are not on kbin.run but fedia.io? thanks!

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 3 points 9 months ago

Correct. Thank you!

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 9 months ago

im looking for testers if you want to give mine mbin a shot https://moist.catsweat.com

im an oldschool sysadmin, so it pains me to see ernest so ... uncommunicative.

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 4 points 9 months ago

Much appreciated. This seems to be working for now, but I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

[-] jherazob@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Just tried to create an account on fedia.io, which is the biggest of the mbin instances (at just about a bit above 4K users, so not THAT much), and it just could NOT take the registration, all i get is "429 Too Many Requests", after multiple tries. I suspect that says the instance is woefully underpowered for the traffic it's handling

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, something's misconfigured, underpowered, or something.

[-] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hi there, mbin dev here. We have a configuration problem with rate limits. "429 Too Many Requests" is the server saying "you requested to much, I will not send you any responses anymore". Feedback is noted and we'll try to get that sorted out asap

@jherazob@kbin.social @tiredofsametab@kbin.run

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, my very first request was a 429 so the back-off seemed really weird, heh. Thanks!

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

Sad to hear. 429s seems to be a known issue: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues/470

Any reason why you don't want to try Lemmy? Alternatively, the is https://narwhal.city that runs Lotide (https://sr.ht/~vpzom/lotide/)

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 9 months ago

microblog. if you do any serious following lemmy is.. not the right toool.

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 2 points 9 months ago

I actually started on Lemmy and it auto-refreshed and did some other things I found so annoying I was gone in about half a day.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 7 points 9 months ago

Auto-refresh has been disabled since a few months.

[-] livus@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

@NegativeLookBehind pretty sure this outage was unscheduled, as Ernest usually warns us

At this point, I think I’m just going to create an alternate Lemmy account to avoid these blackouts.

You should. I have accounts all over the fediverse, probably one of the reasons I don't get angsty if my main on kbin's down.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Where are the warnings? If they’re in some particular magazine that maybe not every user is subscribed to, then this is a bad practice.

[-] livus@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

@NegativeLookBehind kbinDevlog. Personally I feel pretty chill about it.

I don't think Ernest owes us anything. It's his early development project, he didn't specifically invite me here. I just showed up one day, and feel grateful to be able to come along for the ride.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Cool, and I respect that. And I respect Ernest for what he does and he doesn’t owe anyone anything at all. But if you open source a thing and then almost completely ignore your user base, it’s just a bit disappointing.