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As reported exclusively by russian sources at the moment, he lost consciousness after a walking hour and prison medics were unsuccessful in reanimating him, as per sources in УФСИН (government body regulating prisons and punishment). He was 47 years old at that time. The last time he was heard of he was moved from Moscow-based prison into the IK-3 named Polar Wolf, a penal colony located in a permafrost region near the town of Harp, where he found his end.

No other sources commented on that by now. At that time, there's no independent proof of that or other explanations but the one given by prison authorities.

A fitting reminder is that presidential elections are to be held in 15-17 of March, meaning it happened exactly one month prior to them.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 33 points 9 months ago

Take it with a grain of salt as I'm from here and I can't be objective about him or local politics.

At the start of his political career before 2011 it was all over the place, including nationalistic marshes, pro-gun rhetoric and basic agitation against funding national republics of Caucasus (they have negative balance and are helped by dotations from the center). Not to the levels of actual fascist like NOD or Dugin fans, but still very shitty. It's still argued if he was opportunistic or genuinelly supported all of that, and it's pointless imho. I can see most average persons from some Volgograd or Tambov saying the same or worse. Yet - he was caught on camera and it's forever archived.

After co-triggering Bolotnaya and other demonstrations he dropped that pov and got onto the platform of fighting corruption, to get honest, legit elections and tried to elect himself and other oppositioners into power. Since that, he came to be pro-European and anti-Putin politician. His program was basically that — let's retire these old friends and partners, who in his opinion are a middle between a mafia and a late soviet nomenclature. and see if a peaceful transfer to some more liberal Russia is possible. He wasn't all that savvy about making an original program, but he was a talented organizer and public speaker that put a lot of orgs and people together for numerous protest actions, he became a face of a brand for all public anti-establishment talks, a man and a vehicle if you will.

The other bad thing many remember was in 2014, where he was asked about the faith of Crimea and he said 'it's not a sandwich for it to casually change hands' for what he had backlash for years to come, even though he tried to walk it back and explain many times after that. It too was a stain on his reputation, but imho after seeing how failing ratings of Putin jumped over Crimea's capture and how regular people celebrated it (and forgot that Luhansk and Donetsk were on fire at the same time), he could've thought he'd shoot himself in the foot by vouching against it – although Nemtsov, the soon-to-be-dead oppositioner I liked more, did just that.

I'd say he doesn't really have any politics, so he's probably a liberal europe-centric politician. If he could become the next pres, he wouldn't probably change anything but introducing democratisation and transparency of the government. His value for me and other angry russians is that he collected a lot of other oppositional persons who usually waste all their time arguing with each other and nitpicking each other's words. He's not the best, like mentioned Nemtsov or Novodvorskaya, but he was alive and he did something when most were passive.

I hope I answered your curiosity. If you held some vision of him asking that (I think you do, since you are from lemmy.ml) lay it there. This person was very complicated and there were many different opinions about him from a kremlin agent, to a fascist, to a savior, to a rubber duck. Whatever, I feel like he didn't deserve dying in prison like that, thus I was very displeased hearing he's dead.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

Nice answer, thank you.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Let's be honest, Navalny was a nationalist right wing scumbag who thought 90s reforms were a good thing. There was zero chance of him ever becoming a prominent political figure in Russia because liberalism is a discredited ideology for most Russians today.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

You put so much of your own views into your vision of russian history so I'd like to do the same.

In the 80s USSR was a dying corpse striving for a change. It's dead was pronounced in many ways, from european republics trying to get independence to самиздат and the Leningrad's rock club gaining popularity.

Russian politics in the 90s were all wrong, but not for the reasons you think. There was a wave of privatisation of factories, that could be okay on the paper, but it all ended up by respectable partners buying all of the stonks. That oligarchic rule is what we are struggling with right now. That's the foundation of Putin's Russia.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah, privatization was the problem, and having lived through it personally, I know what things were like before Putin took over. Calling USSR a dying corpse striving for change is frankly absurd. USSR had problems to be sure, but liberalization was not the solution, and that's precisely what led to privatization and Putin's Russia today. USSR could've taken the route that China took and stayed communist. Liberalism is the actual cancer in Russia today.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Kek. Russia isn't cursed because it chosed the liberal course. It's cursed because it's deeply corrupted, just like China rn.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago
[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are you american or european? I'm russian btw.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago

I grew up in Russia, and my family moved in late 90s. I currently live in Canada, but I still have relatives in Russia and I'd like to think I have a decent idea of what things are like currently.

[-] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

So, Navalny was xenophobic at the beginning. Central Asian countries don't want to hear about his xenophobic statements.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I don't feel like you've read my comment to the end.

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