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This is about the most recent version of LibreOffice on Windows 10. I can't speak for other versions.

My daughter worked hard on her social studies essay. I type things in for her because she’s a really bad typist, but she tells me what to write… but I didn’t remember to manually save her social studies essay yesterday, and for some reason the ThinkPad rebooted, LibreOffice crashed and we lost the whole thing... because autosave was not automatically on when I installed it.

No, recovery didn't work. We just got a blank file.

I rewrote it for her based on the information we had and what I remembered and tried to make it sound like what a 13-year-old would write because it was basically my fault and she did do the work. I did have her sit with me as I wrote it in case she didn’t like something I wrote, but it was sort of cheating. I'm okay with that cheating since I know she worked hard on it.

First, though, I went into the settings and turned on autosave.

I like LibreOffice, but why the hell is that not on automatically? Honestly, I don't really understand why someone wouldn't want their documents autosaved, but I'm pretty sure most people would want that.

This isn't fucking 1993. I shouldn't have to remember to save a document anymore and it shouldn't be lost forever because of it.

Like I said, I like LibreOffice. I don't really want to trust documents to Microsoft or Google. But this was really annoying.

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[-] Evkob@lemmy.ca 29 points 9 months ago

I type things in for her because she’s a really bad typist, but she tells me what to write…

At the risk of being that asshole who tells a parent how to raise their child based off a single post online, how do you expect her to become a better typist if you do it for her? She's 13, she's probably not gonna be that good at anything, she's at the age where she's supposed to be learning things (and that includes skills like typing).

Maybe I'm just projecting my own parents' shortcomings onto you, but they often just did things for me instead of helping me learn. I think I would be a better, more well-rounded human today if they had pushed me to be a bit more independent. I'm sure you're doing this out of love for your daughter, but I think you might not be doing her any favours by doing a portion of the work yourself. If she decides to pursue post-secondary education, are you still going to type her essays for her? What about if she gets a job that involves typing?

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

My mom used to do things for me instead of letting me learn, but only the things it would be painful for me to learn, because she couldn’t handle seeing me suffer.

She died when I was 26 years old, and it was only then that I finally started to develop some of the necessary life skills I should have been learning when I was a teenager.

Being too soft on kids is cruel because the adult pays for it so hard.

[-] braxy29@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

if i could parent my oldest kid again, i would let him struggle more and fail more.

the inevitable rude awakening was ROUGH.

edit - grammar

[-] rudyharrelson@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think OP has explained that he does let her type when it's a shorter document. Which I think is perfectly reasonable at this age.

I couldn't type very well until I took a dedicated typing class at school when I was 13. By the end of the semester, I was faster than 95% of all typists worldwide. Maybe OP's kid might be interested in a class like that next year. And if not, she'll still get better over time even if she isn't typing these long essays right now.

Basically, give her (and OP) a break. They're doing fine.

Edit: also, I don't think you're an asshole for offering your input. Nothing wrong with that. It just comes off as a bit overly judgemental given OP is guilty of... occasionally typing his daughter's longer essays to save time (a finite resource that any parent has a limited quantity of).

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

What OP is guilty of is of losing his daughter’s essay.

Just one of the many, many, many drawbacks to having your parents do your homework for you.

[-] rudyharrelson@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

OP definitely didn't "do the homework" for the kid based on the description of events. You are wildly exaggerating if you are suggesting typing the essay that the kid dictated is tantamount to doing the homework for them.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

At the risk of being that asshole who tells a parent how to raise their child based off a single post online, how do you expect her to become a better typist if you do it for her?

By letting her do it when it isn't a long essay.

[-] HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 months ago

I'd argue that you should let her type, even on a long essay. There's no shortcut to learning how to type, and unless the essay is on a tight deadline, depriving her of the learning opportunity will only delay this crucial ability.

If you're afraid that she will not be able to focus on the essay contents while typing, she can try drafting the essay up with pen on paper first.

[-] Mistic@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In my experience, the longer you type, the faster you get at typing.

That's like getting into the rhythm. If you do it a little and then stop, then you never become proficient as you never got into that flow.

Try learning a guitar by pulling a few strings a day. Try learning to read in a different language by reading a few letters each time. Try running by taking a few steps.

Doesn't it sound ridiculous?

Have you ever tried learning a different language? You don't become proficient by reading one sentence, then stopping and then another one. You do it by struggling through many, and the more you do it, the faster you learn.

Note, I'm not writing this because "boohoo, bad parenting." It's the first essay, who cares. (although her being 13 does make me raise a brow. I'd expect it with a 7 y.o., but 13? w/e, you do you). I just think you have a misunderstanding in how learning core-level skills work. Continuous repetition is the key.

Another glaring example is how toddlers learn languages. In a span of a couple of years, they are capable of learning a language to native level with absolutely no prior knowledge, just by listening and trying to repeat the sounds day in and day out. Just think about it.

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