858
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

So is this another OJ Simpson-type situation? Don't go to jail for what you did, just pay a fine for what you did? So no criminal consequences, but some civil ones for the same offense? I mean fraud must be a criminal offense in the US too, right?

[-] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

It's not a criminal lawsuit I don't think jail was in the cards.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, but why no criminal lawsuit as well? Defrauding people for hunderts of millions of dollars sure sounds like a offence to me that could/should lead to criminal charges. I don't get how this would not be obvious now that a judge already has found Trump guilty in a civil lawsuit.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

Different standards of evidence, for one. The same evidence may not prove his guilt based on criminal statutes.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's clear. If I understand it correctly, all it would take is a public prosecutor to bring criminal charges. Even if the criminal case against Trump in this fraud case ended in an acquittal, the civil judgment would still stand. I'm just trying to understand what the prosecution's thinking might be. Perhaps that they wanted to wait for the civil trial first in order to have a better chance with the jury in a criminal trial (even if the jury should in theory decide completely impartially, someone who has already been convicted of fraud will probably seem less credible). Another consideration could be related to the strange fact that an acquittal in the US prevents a retrial of the same case (as far as I know). Either way, it's all rather strange, I think.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

It's not the easiest thing to sort out without being able to ask local DAs.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

That’s coming. Dude has like 91 felony counts awaiting trial. First trial happens in March.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Aren't all of the 91 pending felony charges about other things?

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

It's hard to keep track of all the laws Trump has broken...

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If he doesnt pay is jail on the cards?

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Asset seizure is in the cards

load more comments (10 replies)
this post was submitted on 16 Feb 2024
858 points (98.6% liked)

News

23287 readers
3673 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS