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[-] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The included insult, however mild, must be seen as an attempt to denigrate QUESTIONING the police methods, as if the environment was "obviously" fair and balanced. He might have not meant it that way, but even then it's an example of the moderate being the true enemy of the oppressed. So it's either a tactic, siding with a fascist system or at best inconsiderate.

[-] bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The included insult, however mild, must be seen as an attempt to denigrate QUESTIONING the police

No it doesn't. That's ridiculous to insist it must be viewed in that manner. That's your reductionist view.

He might have not meant it that way,

So he may not have meant it that way, but we must view it that way? Absolutely insane take.

but even then it's an example of the moderate being the true enemy of the oppressed. So it's either a tactic, siding with a fascist system or at best inconsiderate.

Here's the real issue, you've created a litmus test that no one is pure enough to meet. Rather than accepting allies for trans rights, you want to push them away. If they aren't as reactionary and reductionist as you then they must be the enemy. Truly alarming. You're the problem, you allow the "moderates" (as you call them), who might otherwise support trans rights to oppose them by pushing them out and calling them transphobic.

[-] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

I'm not calling anybody anything, I'm criticizing a behavior. And someone called the comment transphobic, not the poster.

So he may not have meant it that way, but we must view it that way? Absolutely insane take.

It's about how fascist strategy works. And part of that is an appeal to order for the moderates. This book (excepts) talks a lot about this stuff.

This is a life-or-death fight against fascism. Literally in this case. But the fascists won't stop with trans people.

There is a very clear fascist movement that is rapidly growing in strength in the US. First the rhetoric, the attacks on teachers, the bullying, then physical violence, the maliciousness or incompetence of the school, now a 16 year old kid is dead. Then the police are waiting and then say her sudden death had nothing to do with the attack.

Maybe the police is right? Or maybe they are biased or maybe they are fascist?

Reading all this makes people sad and angry they criticizes the police.
Now someone calls him a dingbat for jumping to conclusions.
His remarks (not the person) are being called out as transphobic.

And THAT enrages you THAT creates this outrage in you of how awful it is to get angry at people who push back against outrage at the police. Not the death, not the police makes you angry, but this incredibly injustice! This is what you chose to make comments about.

It's the presumption that the police system works as intended and should work like this and shouldn't be criticized. Coupled with an insult. It's outrageous. I'm not calling it transphobic, I'm calling it the "negative peace" that moderates prefer (see MLK about white moderates) and works in support of fascism.

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