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Edit: Blocked the author's name, because it's not my tumblr. I didn't expect so many people to misinterpret it and respond in this way.

Edit 2: This is not from the same author, but it's a reply to them. I think it might help clarify the post for those that are confused:

I normally don't worry about usernames on tumblr, but since there've been some really out-of-pocket misconceptions in the thread, I don't want anyone to harass them.

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[-] iain@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago

I regret not making my assumption explicit: a democracy in which there is a just constitution that guarantees the rights of everyone equally. I would not model this democracy based on the USA, because it is such a broken system. In the USA, only one party is in power at a time, which makes problems like the dictatorship of the majority a real concern. Better are European systems where nobody ever gets an absolute majority and always has to form a coalition. It's of course also not without its problems and I don't profess to have all the solutions.

What I don't like is just saying that the two state solution is ideal, but immediately saying it's not feasible for something the Palestinians have done. This again places the Israeli needs over the Palestinians and disregard the vastly bigger crimes Israel has committed onto the Palestinian population over the years.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I meant politically feasible, (lacks popular and leadership support) not that it isn't a good solution any more. If a two state solution could magically be established, I do think that'd be pretty good, though it'd be really complex and harry.

Conditional protections against consolidation of power would be great. Ranked choice voting while your at it. But making such a constitution seems like it would still need to be externally encouraged, rather than organically from the will of the majority, since I'd think they'd want to keep more power.

But those sorts of protections I think have been that Palestinians have been advocating more recently over a full separation two state solution, right?

But I want to keep in mind that me and most of us are pretty unformed about the challenges. Arbitrary uninformed lines on maps was how we got into this mess in the first place, with the British mandate coming out of WWI in splitting up the ottoman empire and again after WWII. So even though some degree of external solution may be necessary, it needs to be extremely well informed and thoughtful to not blow up again.

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