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Edit 2: This is not from the same author, but it's a reply to them. I think it might help clarify the post for those that are confused:

I normally don't worry about usernames on tumblr, but since there've been some really out-of-pocket misconceptions in the thread, I don't want anyone to harass them.

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[-] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 8 months ago

Here's my hot take:

No nation has the inherent right to exist. A nation has the sole duty to safeguard the lives, safety, and freedom of all of its people, and any nation that consistently fails to do this is illegitimate.

And yes, I agree, this makes nearly every nation illegitimate.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago

I like this take! It's similar to my opinion, except I think quite possibly we can eventually find alternative ways to safeguard our lives, safety, and freedom without a state at all.

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 months ago

Read Abdullah Öcalan and Murray Bookchin are definitely worth reading here. Öcalan points out that states are fundamentally genocidal because it's easier to control one identity than several. Rajava is a really interesting example of libertarian socialism that doesn't attempt to confront the state, but basically just ignores it unless it's a threat. Rojava isn't a country, it's just an autonomous zone within the state or Syria (that isn't governed by Syria).

I think that model offers a lot. It could even offer a path beyond Israel and the US. Öcalan's Democratic Confederalism is like 100 pages and worth the read IMHO.