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[-] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 8 months ago

Okay but jokes aside, how many users actually have issues with that? So far it never broke anything for me, even when it apparently should have, according to a forum post I only read several weeks late, after finally noticing the intervention required tag

[-] 8565@lemmy.techtriage.guru 24 points 8 months ago

1 year on current Arch install and have yet to have a issue

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I have installed arch on my work laptop two years ago now and I have never had a problem with it booting, logging in or functioning. Never as in not once. I do update it periodically and every time it just fucking works.

I used debian at a desktop at another work and the desktop had an nvidia card in it. Every time apt said “nvidia” the computer booted in single user mode or kernel panic.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah the only issues I've had with Arch, were due to me being a dumbass.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago

The faulty GRUB patch was a widespread issue. Syu -> reboot -> fail to boot. It was especially annoyng since you couldn't just rollback like with any other faulty arch update.

Besides that, during the 2-3 years I mained it, I've had Arch often fail to boot after updating it for the first time in a few weeks. And on endeavour the update script gave up one day, and so I had to remember to manually mkinitcpio or it would fail to boot.

[-] Lulzagna@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Yes, I've been affected by the grub crap several times.

Been using arch and endeavour for about 5 years now, only ever had boot issues caused by Nvidia drivers. Outside of grub that is.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

My backup pc had the most issues with updates, and it doesn't have a dedicated GPU. I wouldn't update it for a few weeks or a month+, update, fail to boot, rollback, try again in a few weeks and it would work.

The final straw was when I was working abroad with bad internet, and had to weigh whether -S or -Syu is more likely to cause a failure.

[-] Lulzagna@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Interesting. How long ago was this? I use arch daily as my main driver, but also run it on a vps, a laptop, and a raspberry pi (arm distro). Other than grub, I can't recall the last time upgrading caused an issue.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

The last time was 6+ months ago because I stopped using Arch. It happened from time to time on both of my machines, but it had a lot higher chance to happen on that particular pc than on my ThinkPad. I'm guessing it was more frequent because the main one was getting updated multiple times a week.

There was one good warning sign though: if I needed to -Syyu, something was most likely going to go wrong with the update.

[-] Damage@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago

I've switched from Arch to Fedora about a decade ago, never had this issue with either. Actually I probably never had this issue with GRUB at all, maybe with LILO...

[-] drew_belloc@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

It happened twice for me and now i don't have the time to backup everything and reinstall the os, so i moved to a debian base

[-] baggins@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 months ago

You don't have to reinstall the os just because grub broke 😕

[-] drew_belloc@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

The first time that this happened i spend a good chunk of time to learn how to fix the problem without reinstalling, the secound time i just moced everything to another driver, reinstalled and moved everything back, it took a feel hours but most of the time i was just waiting for the files to move, so i was able to do something else instead, i don't use brtfs because it corrupted mi ssd once (i have no idea why), but i'm fine on mint, now i don't have much time at home, and when i do i need to be sure that nothing will broke because i have a lot of work to do from my job and college, i really like arch but i really need something stable right now

[-] zeluko@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

BTRFS or ZFS and then you can just rollback to an earlier snapshot.

[-] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago

Except if you upgrade ZFS pools to a newer version that's not yet supported by Grub.

[-] shadowintheday2@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Happened once around two years ago, s botched update from mainstream or something like that. Made me learn systemd boot which is simple and never EVER use grub again

[-] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Happened to me at least once

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Perhaps this is on me, but I've had issues with Windows monkeying with GRUB on dual-boot the first year or so I transitioned to Linux. Finally moved to systemd-boot and haven't looked back since.

[-] exu@feditown.com 1 points 8 months ago

The intervention last year was only required if the grub package was updated and generated a config the older bootloader didn't understand. You would have been fine either way as long as you didn't generate a new config. I ignore grub updates now because I was caught with my setup.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I've been using Arch for like 10 years and I never really have any issues. My biggest issue is with the ZFS module, but I solved that by using the LTS kernel.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago

It's happened to me 2x in 20 years of Linux usage. First time was my fault.

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