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Maddow is a clown though
If you say so, TropicalDingdong...
Remember this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/03/14/heres-what-we-know-about-trumps-tax-returns/99192032/
Months, practically years, she strung her audience along on nothing burger after nothing salad, followed up with a nice unsatisfying nothing milkshake. How long did that go on for? Like 2 years?
Her show is built to do exactly what it did here, to generate a headline that gets clicks. Outside of that, its vapid with nothing even resembling a material criticism of the state. Its a joke of a show and her viewership are as uninformed as Tucker Carlsons viewership.
Shes an entertainer, not a journalist.
Okay, you didn't like that one thing she did and used a lot of words to express that and your judgement of this person appears to be absolute and final. Edgy. How does that relate to the topic at hand? Are there any nothing dishes you need to complain about here?
Not sure why you're being downvoted. I feel like her and Bill Maher are the left's version of Tucker Carlson. Sure they're not AS egregious as Tucker and the Fox wackos but they come off so pompous and smug.
My dad and I loved the original Daily Show with Jon Stewart and when Jon left (I'm so happy he's back now), I tried some other shows and my dad suggested Maddow. I felt like I was watching Fox News at points. I couldn't make it through an episode.
Just liberals who think they are leftists. They don't actually know where they stand. The are Democrats before and always before they have any political principals. I'm not a Democrat or a liberal, so the downvotes just come with the territory. I caucus with Democrats. I've put in thousands of hours to get Democrats elected to state and local offices. But I am not a Democrat, and I would never run as one.
And to be fair, its a fairly low effort comment that might be worthy of downvoting regardless of its sentiment. But Rachel Maddow truly is a clown, and her audience (if they've stuck with her) are clowns along with her. She jerked off Democrats for literally years in some kind of perennial Trump 'gotcha' moment that never manifested. I'm not going to kink-shame edging like this, but at a certain point, either put up or shut up Rachel.
My central thesis right now is that white liberalism is the biggest political problem in the US right now. Yes, we have transitioned from burgeoning fascism to running fascism, but this would not be possible with out white liberalism (the political philosophy that underpins Maddow, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, the Clintons, the Obama presidency etc..). They are opponents of progress and because of this gave space to the legitimate criticism that Democrats are detached from the material conditions people live with, that they are elitist and don't care about their voters, and that they just want to shame you into voting they way they want you do. This offered a cavernous void that the modern fascist movement has been able to fill.
Half-a-loaf policies that have been the hallmark of Democratic leadership, where you either get 1/4 loaf and sometime negative loaf polices, while people quality of life and ability to do well in this society collapse, this approach to politics is why when people hear a fascist critique of the extant state, it lands with them. Because they aren't doing better. In failing to govern effectively, in failing to go after full throated universal policies, the political philosophy of white liberalism opened the doors and set the table for fascism to have a seat. They aren't resisting the problem, the are the problem. We wouldn't be desperately trying to resist a fascist turn in this country if not for the previous 4 decades of white liberalism being the dominant political philosophy of the Democratic party.