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submitted 1 year ago by ATQ@lemm.ee to c/politics@lemmy.world

The meme has been liked nearly 9,000 times and shared 2,400 times as of Monday. In reaction to Mr Trump’s repost, journalist Aaron Rupar sarcastically wrote on Twitter: “rubbing my last 2 brain cells together as I try to remember who ran the government on January 6.”

The former president shared the meme despite a House committee that investigated January 6 declaring Mr Trump the “central cause” of the day’s events. “None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him,” the House panel wrote in its final report.

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[-] CMLVI@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

I don't think it is lol. It's a rally he and his proponents called for, organized, and sought supporters for, specifically to halt the election process. Whether or not it was successful doesn't matter; I'd still get charged for robbery whether I stole money or not. It was govt supported; it was his rally, the sitting president. To me, the point was for it to be violent and messy, preventing the legal counting of votes, and giving him time to build a legal case for martial law or some other two-ply defense while he called more AGs and state officials to grift for votes to be "found" or valid ballots thrown out.

Is what the meme says supportive of him? No. Is he aware of that? Seemingly no. Is it incorrect? Also no. And that's the funniest part. It's literally calling it a riot while the most prominent images are his name on a hat, a flag, etc. Who staged this riot? I wonder...

[-] transmatrix@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The time and location of his rally was not incidental.

[-] matsubass24@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

These are all good points. By saying it is more complicated, my intention wasn’t to absolve him of responsibility but merely highlight that other government actors influenced the events of that day. Namely, FBI instigators encouraging violence, Capitol Police deaths being falsely attributed to happening during the riots, there not being enough security at the Capitol, Capitol Police waving in protestors, etc. It was his rally and he played an integral part so ultimately I agree with you but I contend it was more complicated than “Trump said violently enter the Capitol” or “other government actors are responsible and not Trump”. In other words, Trump was an irresponsible dumbass but there are definitely other forces who want to make sure Trump will never be president again.

[-] CMLVI@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

See, I feel like the lack of security and other questionable actions were more in favor of Trump, allowing the crowd to move more freely and come closer than ever would be possible if they responded as expected. I'm not exactly up on my 1/6 lore recently, but regardless, shit wasn't handled correctly, regardless of what side you're on. Motivations get much more murky, which is insane. It just goes to show the state of US politics that were having to deep dive into primary, secondary, tertiary motives.

Not that other major nation politics isn't the same, it's just exhausting.

[-] matsubass24@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah you’re totally right. That pretty much sums up Trump’s entire presidency. As someone who leans progressive, I was hoping he was playing 3D chess at times and would fix certain things given the overlap between populist and progressive ideas. But instead, we just got chaos.

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