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What do you think would improve your Lemmy experience? (lemmy.world)

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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 8 months ago

So then why do you keep trying to define me as a "Christian fundamentalist" when your definition of that is basically someone who's just a normal Nicene Christian, and not a heretical offshoot?

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Because that's how that word is used? People who take Bible/teachings literally. Maybe you are not aware but at least in Europe a lot of Christians don't take the whole thing literal. I have good friend who is Catholic but she does not take the Bible and the teachings literal.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

I literally live in Europe. And what do you mean by the "whole thing literal", would that include taking the creation story as literal 6 24 hour long days and the patriarch ages literally? Because if so, then I don't take the whole Bible literally and I am not a fundamentalist.

Does your good friend believe that Jesus physically and literally resurrected?

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

No, she also does not believe in a bearded guy who created everything, which makes sense since she is a biologist.

In general fundamentalism refers to people taking religious texts and teaching as literal. You take the story of Jesuses resurrection and wonders literal ( at least that is my impression) - so to me you are a Christian fundamentalist. Which is just a fancy way to say that you take the story of Jesus literal.

Also our dialogue might get world record for the use of the word literal.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

So in what way is she "Catholic" if she doesn't believe in God 👁️👄👁️

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

People believe in god in quite different ways. Your literal interpretation of Jesuses life is not the only possibility.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, and those different ways are called religions, and the more refined thinking is called denominations. You just said she was Roman Catholic, which is not only Nicene Christian, not only a denomination, but a set and structured organisation which definitely does require it's adherents to believe in God, among many other things including Jesus literally rising from the dead. Which is the majority belief within Christianity, in fact it's a main foundation of it.

Muslims believe in Jesus. Some Hindus do as well. Doesn't make them Christian.

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

So you are not only arbiter on when life begins, cells are considered humans, but also on who is Christian and who not - for someone following Jesus you are really into judging.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?” Then I will tell them plainly, “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!”

‭‭‘Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

‭I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father except through me. If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.

Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will save it. What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit their very self?

‭Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practise magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practises falsehood.

Want to guess who said these?

I am not the arbiter of these things, but God is. Jesus makes it clear you must believe in God.

And why shoule we be the arbiter of morality either? We managed to gaslight ourselves into thinking that slavery was okay, execution, lobotomies, various wars, genocide, etc.

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure if you chose to take the words literally - but that's kind of the point of the whole conversation.

And you do make yourself an arbiter - the moment you say that someone is not a true Christian.

So why are you an arbiter of morality despite all what you say?

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

I'm literally just echoing facts. If I said the sky is blue, does that make me the arbiter of the colour of the sky? Of course not.

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Dang, thanks I finally got how Christians are often so judgemental - you guys are thinking that you're stating facts not passing judgement. That conversation was rather useful after all.

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