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196 Stands with Palestine, but those of you in the US should still vote in the general election. (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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I've been seeing a lot of anti-voting sentiment going around. Can't believe I have to say this, but you need to vote. Not only is there more to the election than just the president. (State policy, Senate, house), but not voting is not an act of protest. C'mon guys

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[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 8 months ago

This is such a garbage fucking take. A vote for Biden is a vote to delay fascism for 4 years, which we can use to fight it more effectively. You vote to buy time, and you use that time to fight. There's not much point in voting if we don't fight, but if you don't vote fighting will get a lot harder and things will get worse. Go read a book and touch some grass.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 11 points 8 months ago

Not if you vote democrats though. 2016 should have been a wakeup call, but wasn't to the party elites. Then 2020 should have been a wake up call but wasn't. Now it is 2024 and they are still not waking up.

As long as they are not punished vor being neoliberal far right economists with an imperial war hawk approach to foreign policy nothing will change.

Everyone should vote for a third party imo. If the Dems suddenly need to compete with an actually progressive party, they would need to bring actual progressive politics. Right now they are just becoming more and more like what the republicans used to be, just with some LGBT rights, but only like if it isn't inconvenient.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Everyone should vote for a third party imo.

How to split the party vote and hand Trump the presidency in one easy step.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

Your alternative is the Dems continueing to fuck over the poor people in and outside the US and the Republicans to sucessfully blame it on the libs, but doing the same, fueling an ever far right extreme spiral.

In the end i guess voters get what they deserve for never demanding actual positive change from the party that proclaims for itself to be progressive.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I agree that the democratic party is a shit show. I hate it too. But if the goal is progress, handing Trump the presidency is wrong move.

The correct move is to begrudgingly vote Biden in and work on election reform at a local level. In no way am I suggesting sit around doing nothing and letting the status quo persist.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Ah so you want to give the country to Trump and turn it into a dictatorship, so you don't get to vote ever again?

That's some really "SMART" math you have!

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

with some LGBT rights, but only like if it isn't inconvenient

So I intend to vote, but this is important for everyone to understand. The democrats are NOT allies. They are only supportive insofar as we are useful producers and consumers.

Look to Palestine and the Mexican border for examples of how well they'll stand up for us when we become unuseful or unpopular.

We need a system change including the entire removal of our "dEmOcRaCy" -- anyone who defends our system as any kind of equitable system is either a lying fascist or a fool -- no exceptions