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[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one -1 points 8 months ago

You can't tell the difference between an adaptation and a sequel? The show was not a "different story", it was a poorly-made adaptation that they didn't want to make. They wanted Game of Thrones using an unrelated existing IP. If they really wanted a different story entirely, they should have avoided using the characters and events from the books.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They are both doing the exact same thing, expanding on existing lore. It’s extremely weird that you think there’s a difference here.

Why is one more acceptable than the other, when they are doing the exact same thing? You can of course make excuses like you did to defend it, but it’s still the same exact thing in the end. Arguing otherwise is just asinine.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 0 points 8 months ago

I don’t know how you consider an adaptation the same as a sequel. Would you watch yet another movie with the origin story of Spider-man and think it expands the lore of Spider-man? It doesn’t make sense.

The Witcher TV show is garbage, especially the second and third season. I’m glad that you appear to enjoy it, but it’s not for me. I wouldn’t call an adaptation that bastardizes the source material an expansion of the lore, but you are free to do you. In either case, even if the show was a truly unique story and IP, it doesn’t even follow its own narrative. Characters make nonsensical decisions that go against their character traits established in the show. Pacing is weird, dialogue is not good. Cavil was carrying the entire show on his shoulders.

If you look at user reviews for season 3, you will see I’m not the only person with this view. S3E5 was the worst episode of any TV show I have ever seen. The franchise deserved better. The showrunner drove this show into the ground. They clearly don’t understand the source material, or how to make an interesting story in the Witcher universe. They need to do better.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You obviously haven’t read the books, it can’t be a sequel… yennefer and Geralt were dead and ciri fucked off to an alternate reality at the end of the books. Runes basically don’t exist in the books, among basically everything else the games take for liberty.

The show was confusing, because Cavill wanted non-canon game stuff with canon book stuff, when the show wasn’t either. You can’t have the person that fucked the entire thing up, be the one “carrying” it lmfao.

So yeah… both are doing the exact same thing, using the lore to tell a different story.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 0 points 8 months ago

You obviously haven’t read the books, it can’t be a sequel… yennefer and Geralt were dead and ciri fucked off to an alternate reality at the end of the books.

Correct, but thanks for the spoilers I guess? I also haven't beaten the games either. That's how I know the show sucks. I'm interested in reading the books and finishing the games, but I don't give a fuck about the show. I don't mind if the games are not a perfect adaptation of the books, video-->game adaptations (and vice versa) usually suck, but the game is fun, engaging, and has a great story. The show does not. Stop comparing the games to the show. You might consider them similar as derivative creative art goes, but they aren't playing in the same league quality-wise. The show will be remembered about as fondly as the Star Wars holiday special.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So… how can you claim it’s faithful adaptation when you’ve neither read or played the games…? I’ve pointed out they are both stories using the lore to tell alternate stories, that’s a fact. Sorry.

And that’s entirely on you for participating in a conversation about lore. Why are you piping up if you don’t even know any of it? Lmfao I’m not even sorry.

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 0 points 8 months ago

So… how can you claim it’s faithful adaptation when you’ve neither read or played the games…? I’ve pointed out they are both stories using the lore to tell alternate stories, that’s a fact. Sorry.

Because I had eyes and ears and have seen examples of the changes that were made from the source material, and the decisions that were made for the show were bad decisions. I was planning on reading the books at some point, and it looks like that is what I will be doing instead of watching any future seasons of the show.

And that’s entirely on you for participating in a conversation about lore. Why are you piping up if you don’t even know any of it?

Because this is probably the only shot I will have to watch a live action adaptation of the franchise and they fucked it up. At least we have LOTR and The Last of US to look back on fondly.

Lmfao I’m not even sorry.

This is pretty low bar you have set for yourself. I wasn't looking for spoilers, and there was no reason to include it in your responses, you just wanted to hurt someone. You clearly don't care for the books, games, show, or the audience for them. Sounds like you have the same ignorance the showrunner has (oddly with the same name in your username too).

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Uhh… you can’t have an opinion on that if you don’t know what’s canon and not.

They didn’t fuck it up, it got fucked up because some people had a campaign to make it something it was never going to be…

You claimed stuff was faithful, I thought you knew the differences, you even claim in this response you did, so how am I supposed to know?

Again, I’m not sorry that you paraded that you knew the lore, that’s entirely on you, and if you want to try and blame me. Maybe give a good look in the mirror first.

Why, because I didnt intentionally hurt you, you brought it on yourself by coming into a conversation and continually arguing your point, until I had to point out the fatal flaw to your logic in the only way you would see. And yet you still argue lmfao. Shows your intent here wasn’t to discuss, but to only bloviate about…. I don’t even know at this point.

I care deeply about this, that’s why I can point out its flaws and how Cavill wasn’t the hero people think he was.

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