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Israel launches night raid on Gaza al-Shifa hospital (www.bbc.com)

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[+] fubo@lemmy.world -89 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A war crime occurred when Hamas put a military installation in a civilian hospital.

Once that happened, attacking the hospital to get at the military base is not itself a war crime.

You might wish it was, but that's not what the law says.

[-] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

That excuse has been used way too many times in bad faith

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 35 points 9 months ago

That's assuming that that's actually happening. The article only gives the IDF's word, no evidence.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Evidence that there was Hamas? Nobody trusts the IDF on their lying word.

[+] KISSmyOS@feddit.de -28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You demand evidence to prove that Israel didn't commit a war crime?
Proving guilt works the other way around.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 15 points 9 months ago

I love this comment. Someone asking for proof that your claim is true, and instead you say they need to provide proof of what not having proof would prove. What? Israel is making the claim Hamas was there. The burden of proof is on them. If they can not prove it, then it's a war crime.

Regardless, Gaza is one of the most populated regions in the world. There isn't a place without civilians, and they aren't allowed outside of their open-air prison. They literally can not be any significant distance away from civilians. The "they're using civilians as human shields" excuse doesn't work when you force civilians to stand next to them when you drop exosives on both of them. Also, Israel has been literally using civilians as human shields, walking behind them as they force them to walk ahead.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 8 points 9 months ago

That is t what they asked for.

They asked for proof that Hamas was there

[-] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's how the International Criminal Justice (people who did Nuremberg btw) do things, yes, and by all counts Israel is an illegal, settler colonialist, war criminal, fascist state.

Fucking Zio scum

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Let’s go back on how Israel became Israel and their entire regime. Murder (of men, women and children) and displacing 750 000 Palestinian people. Apartheid, racism. Illegal settlements.

Lying to the world about almost everything and not to forget how they speak about Palestinian people (calling them rats, animals and so on). Also to mention they are saying to drop an atomic bomb on Palestinian people (Gaza).

But that’s all “okay”, right? In your eyes.

Not to forget, Hamas was only created in 1987 because of Israel’s action from 1948 up to 1987. That’s 39-40 years later.

EDIT: some corrections like “there” to “their”

[-] Canary9341@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, that is a hoax. International law revolves around proportionality and civilian security, explicitly protecting civilian medical facilities and their medical personnel. They are not invalidated according to the crimes of the other side.

In fact, this would still be a war crime even if there was a nuclear silo under the hospital. You might wish it was, but that’s not what the law says.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl -1 points 9 months ago

Which law are we talking about?

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's also a war crime that every Palestinian has a Hamas military installation in their body. Israel knows and is going to solve that problem. Better hope a Hamas military installation doesn't happen to you or Israel will be coming for you. /s

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