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Murkowski, done with Trump, won’t rule out leaving GOP
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Russia, "walls are closing in" since 2016?
Trump and his various organizations have been engaging in brazen criminal activity since at least 2016, is that what you mean?
He’s a slippery bastard so he has gotten away with it until now, yes.
Yes, I keep getting told this, years ago. So i stopped paying attention to Trump-stuff, that's why i'm asking...
OK I was just confused by you bringing up impeachment which hasn’t been a thing since he was last in office 3 years ago.
If you are genuinely curious, several criminal indictments have been put forth against him by several states and federal prosecutors but there are no verdicts as of yet. My assessment is that he is guilty but because of his wealth and power there is a high chance of acquittal or a hung jury or something along those lines. It’s also very possible that he will be elected president before the cases conclude which may present a constitutional crisis.
Courts have also found that he probably sexually assaulted Jean Carroll and that his business activities were fraudulent but these were civil and not criminal cases.
Also, a number of his underlings have been convicted of various crimes while doing his bidding, but as of yet he has not been convicted of anything. So there’s a lot of underhanded stuff going on but no direct convictions of Trump yet. Kind of like the shady mob boss who everyone knows is behind it all but it’s hard to prove. You can look up his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen’s under-oath testimony about how he uses the same tactics as other organized crime leaders to leave just enough doubt to avoid criminal charges.
Thank you for your thoughtful and good answer. This is exactly what I was joping for. A straightforward unbiased answer.
If I may, I think of Trump like a bumbling fool, snake-oil salesman, con-artist and kind of a dumb-ass. So how can he have done so many things and not have any mess-ups, so big, they create rock solid evidence against him? You only need one serious crime with good evidence for conviction, right? They are talking about 80-90 inditemints (or counts?) Why not just focus on the thing they have evidence for? So they don't dilute the case, make it straight forward, with evidence and make it stick?
I will repeat my unpopular opinion, but it seems like they are thowing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks...
Nobody is talking about impeachment, you picked the wrong script. Talk to your boss and get the latest talking points.
I'm not the one watching legacy media. I'm not the one echoing popular opinions on lemmy. I 'm not the one with a script.
The thing is, you are thinking of the way the legal system works for ordinary people. This is not how it works for the rich and powerful. It is extremely difficult to get a conviction in cases like this because of his popularity and wealth.
And Trump may be a fool in some respects but he has a lifetime of experience skirting the law and several effective techniques to avoid consequences. Most criminals get caught because they are extremely inexperienced, stupid, and have to physically commit crimes themselves. Trump just issues a vague command that his underlings all understand but is vague enough to not be provable. He also destroys most documents when he’s done with them.
But again, your hypothesis is premature. He hasn’t been acquitted of anything so there’s no reason to believe these are wild, unjustified accusations. The system moves slowly and we still need to wait and see what the evidence is before we can know for sure—although in my view at least some of these crimes are well-supported by publicly available evidence.
You can just say you have no idea how the criminal justice system works. It's ok, but you should probably learn before having such strong, ignorant opinions.
How so? What has he been found not guilty of?
Ok, then. Enlighten me. Why not focus on one strongly evidenced criminal act? Something they know they can prove and will stick him in jail?
He would have had to have to focus his criming on one criminal act, in one jurisdiction. He's crimed all over the place, in a variety of ways. The legal systems are just responding to that. I don't know how you expect crimes in Georgia to be ignored because he's committed crimes in New York, for example.
I'm talking about the people going after Trump. Ofcourse you don't ignore criminal acts, but you would do wisely to focus on the acts that have strong evidence / clear illegal acts.
To me, it looks like they charge him with lots of small things and hope he messes up in the courts to get him on a technicality...
That wont be popular, and looks highly political.