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American intelligence withheld information on Moscow terror attacks out of fear of exposing intelligence sources or methods (www.nytimes.com)

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The adversarial relationship between Washington and Moscow prevented U.S. officials from sharing any information about the plot beyond what was necessary, out of fear Russian authorities might learn their intelligence sources or methods.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

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[+] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca -27 points 8 months ago

A vague, time-limited warning that later turned out to not hold true within the given timeframe? That's the extent of our moral obligation? Jesus Christ.

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[-] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 8 months ago

If Russias response was to call the warning a "provocation by the USA" then yes. They just dismissed it and this is what they got.

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[+] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca -10 points 8 months ago

They dismissed it after the 48 hours elapsed and nothing happened.

The US shared shoddy intel.

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[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 10 points 8 months ago

Shoddy intel which was better than what the FSB had on offer.

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[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca -3 points 8 months ago

I wasn't aware you had contacts in the FSB. Do tell. The public nature of the announcement likely pushed the terrorists to ground and forced them to come up with a new plan. Duty to warn is usually done privately for a reason.

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[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you think the FSB had good intel, that means you think they decided to ignore it and allow the terrorist attack in Moscow to happen.

I don't think they're that evil. But hey, maybe you're right.

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[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

I think it's pretty clear that intel for the initially planned Crocus attack was well known. For some odd reason, that I couldn't possibly fathom, the terrorists decided to call it off and do it another day. The initially planned dates had a more popular concert IIRC, so it would've been a better target.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

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[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de -1 points 8 months ago

Fuck human lives am i rite

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[+] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

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[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca -5 points 8 months ago

So your claim is that... Incorrect intel is the extent of our duty to warn? Interesting...

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[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 8 points 8 months ago

Shame that the FSB doesn't have better intel on what's happening in Russia than the CIA.

Perhaps they were too busy tracking the gays after Russia recently labelled the LGBT+ movement terrorists. Perhaps they were tired after ensuring Putin won a sufficient margin against the communists. Or maybe some kid posted a meme on tiktok and they got distracted.

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[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca -5 points 8 months ago

We're talking about the same CIA that failed to assassinate Castro... How many was it? Anyway, do tell me more about your contacts in the FSB...

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[+] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

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[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Hmm?

I think it's pretty clear that intel for the initially planned Crocus attack was well known. For some odd reason, that I couldn't possibly fathom, the terrorists decided to call it off and do it another day. The initially planned dates had a more popular concert IIRC, so it would've been a better target.