1312
bOtH SiDeS!!1! (i.imgur.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

As far as I know, the Oval Office doesn't have start/stop genocide button, or control inflation lever for that matter.

If it's not going to be Biden, then it will be someone else. Either a Republican or a Democrat.

Even someone who earlier looked promising, eg Fetterman is a staunch Israel supporter.

Because the problem is systematic. You can't just uproot the US-Israel nexus that's deeply entrenched in the US politics.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

the Oval Office doesn't have start/stop genocide button

True, but it DOES have the option to stop supplying bombs that they know for a fact are being used to commit that genocide.

Your "either they can push a magic button or they're doing all they can" dichotomy isn't clever. It shows that you're being either disingenuous, willfully ignorant or just extremely obtuse.

Because the problem is systematic

Yes, Israel is systematically wiping out the population of Gaza and the Biden White House is using the levers of the system to help them do it. That's not an argument for not telling them to stop.

You can't just uproot the US-Israel nexus that's deeply entrenched in the US politics

You can, in fact. It worked with Apartheid South Africa, which the US also kept supporting way beyond the point that most other countries stopped, and it'll work with THIS apartheid regime too.

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

It has a stop paying for genocide button.

It has a stop vetoing UN resolutions button.

It has an impose sanctions button and a freeze assets button.

It has a pull their warships out button.

It has dozens of make life really uncomfortable for Israel if it doesn't fucking stop committing genocide buttons.

But at the very least it could stop actively helping them commit genocide.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago

They did use the stop vetoing resolutions button. Not much but it's not nothing.

Sending their warships would mean Israel would try calling their bluff and force USA to commit an act of war to stop them, which would cause absolutely chaos in the region. They probably should start with sanctions though.

Biden's biggest problem here is he's so focused on backrooms negotiations, that he's not using some of the options that could increase public pressure, and all other people see is old treaties continuing with very slow changes and seeing the continued actions of the other party who doesn't really want to negotiate.

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I mean withdraw their ships already in the area, replace that layer of defense with, oh I dunno, thoughts and prayers maybe.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

They also claimed that the resolution is non-binding, which is contrary to stated international law.

load more comments (39 replies)
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

As far as I know, the Oval Office doesn’t have start/stop genocide button

I didn't say "stop genocide". I said "stop supporting genocide."

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

As far as I know, the Oval Office doesn’t have start/stop genocide button, or control inflation lever for that matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

They indeed have the stop button but it's not the one they are pressing.

load more comments (2 replies)
this post was submitted on 04 Apr 2024
1312 points (89.4% liked)

Political Memes

5506 readers
1894 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS