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[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

There has been no election in the last 50+ years where progressives didn't show up en masse for the Democratic candidate. It never happened. As a reward we get this crap every single election cycle.

The voters who don't vote for the Democrats are voters who have checked out of the process and aren't reading this crap from establishment cucks. You aren't going to reach them with a million stupid political memes.

Aside from a few loudmouths, progressive loyalty to the Democrats has never been at issue. By continuously harping on it like it actually is an issue, you are going to make it one. You are telling progressives that their votes are needed but their input is not. Eventually there actually will be a mass betrayal of the Democrats, and the Democrats will have earned it.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

there has been no election in the last 50 years where progressives did not turn out en masse for democrats

Yeah except for 2022, 2016, 2014, 2012, 2010, 2004, 2000, 1998, 1996, 1994, 1988, 1984, 1980....

If progressives turned out as en masse as you insist they have, forget the Dems having dominated the last 50 years of politics, Bernie would have won the primary as the moderate option.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Got some evidence that progressives were the problem? Exit polls have been pretty clear in recent elections as far as I have seen. Without support from the vast majority of progressives, Democrats wouldn't even be relevant. How about Democrats starting to earn that loyalty?

Bill Clinton is largely responsible for dismantling the federal welfare system. Obama let Wall Street use the mortgage crisis (that they caused) to drain even more wealth out of the middle class. He also set in motion the monetization of healthcare that's just now accelerating into a massive disaster. Let's not forget that Bill and Hillary encouraged Trump to run and the media to follow him because they wanted a real asshole to run against. Offering anything of value to the American people wasn't an option, so they needed an opponent that couldn't win, and that turned out great!

Quit trying to shove their failures onto people who have been telling Democrats how to win and have been largely ignored or blamed for their failures.

[-] Princeali311@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Those voters are also maybe voting for the first possibly second time so that whole being jaded shit is a poor argument. Hope they enjoy their consequences. The rest of us won't.

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