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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 178 points 7 months ago

I’m a raging leftist but I’m getting tired of "deontologists" telling me they refuse to vote for Biden then telling me how great Xi Jinping is.

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 57 points 7 months ago

I have to caulk it up to young people learning about socialism and communism for the first time, but they're only reading Marx and Lenin.

Like hey guys, they lost pretty hard. Maybe we shouldn't do exactly the same thing and in fact there's decades of work outlining what we should do instead?

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Is what we've been doing in the US working very well? Maybe the democrat party should look at why nobody is fired up to vote for them, even though the alternative is people like trump. It should be very easy to appeal to normal people, but even with cartoonish opposition, the democrats can't bring themselves to much better. All I'm saying is you're asking some tiny minority of the electorate (socialists) to introspect, when you're better off asking the same of the people and parties that actually have power.

[-] Chiro@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Cynical tinfoil hat moment but — making concessions to voters to beat the GOP means giving away valuable capital (physical and political) that those at the top would rather retain for themselves. It would certainly explain how both sides only ever get worse instead of better, and how ejections continuously come down to 51/49. They don’t have to be any good, they just have to be 1% better than the other one. A race to the bottom.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Now realize that the people at the top win no matter which party is in power.

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