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Colorado’s Democratic-controlled House on Sunday passed a bill that would ban the sale and transfer of semiautomatic firearms, a major step for the legislation after roughly the same bill was swiftly killed by Democrats last year. 

The bill, which passed on a 35-27 vote, is now on its way to the Democratic-led state Senate. If it passes there, it could bring Colorado in line with 10 other states — including California, New York and Illinois — that have prohibitions on semiautomatic guns. 

But even in a state plagued by some of the nation’s worst mass shootings, such legislation faces headwinds.

Colorado’s political history is purple, shifting blue only recently. The bill’s chances of success in the state Senate are lower than they were in the House, where Democrats have a 46-19 majority and a bigger far-left flank. Gov. Jared Polis, also a Democrat, has indicated his wariness over such a ban.

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[-] thantik@lemmy.world 70 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This will get struck down, and it'll be the one thing I agree with when it does. You can't just make everything except bolt-action rifles illegal. Semi-automatic firearms encompasses 99% of what people use for self defense in America. This is a clear violation of rights.

[-] kobra@lemm.ee 54 points 7 months ago

Right or wrong it’s a constitutional right for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with hunting.

Similar to GOP and abortion, dems need to drop this fight. Let’s fix healthcare and save/improve more lives than almost everything else you could spend time on.

[-] FilterItOut@thelemmy.club 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I wish beyond wishing that O'rourke would have just shut the fuck up and deferred about coming after people's guns in Texas. I really wonder if he could've squeaked a victory and Texas would be quite different today. Guns are a losing issue. Even more so than abortion or 'the gays!', guns bring single-issue voters out from everywhere.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Yup. The good news is that it looks like this year will be the best chance in a long time to ditch Ted Cruz.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2024/texas/

[-] wjrii@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Yes, it was definitely a self-inflicted wound, or maybe a tacit acknowledgement that the campaign was doomed anyway, before the public numbers made it obvious. There is a career path to being on the record with that position, though not in statewide political office in Texas.

I grew up in Florida and lived most of my adult life in Texas, and guns have always been a presence. I still own several, but they've been locked in my father-in-law's garage for several years now; I'm ambivalent about what to do with them, and I don't find any joy in "target practice" or fetishizing them as a hobby. Skeet shooting with cheap bird-shot might still be pretty fun, but my single-shot 12ga will be perfectly adequate for that if I ever take it back up.

Chronic gun violence is a tragic, horrific thing that is a fact of life in the US, which is unique among stable democracies. It should be low-hanging fruit to regulate guns very heavily, but due to weird quirks of history and even fuckin' grammar, it's not. The only solace is that while gun violence in this country should be near zero, like it is in almost every other stable country in the world, it's not actually a daily threat for most people. It's a statistically significant cause of death for people who shouldn't normally be dying, but it's possible to overstate the impact of the actual numbers. It's still rare, though unlike the other equally rare things on the list (e.g. cancer, heart attacks), it's completely preventable, in theory, and therefore even sadder and more frustrating.

So theory is nice, but the history and legal framework around guns in this country means anything beyond baby steps is a political nonstarter and very nearly as hard as "curing cancer". While I acknowledge it literally costs lives not to act, it will cost more, including more from gun violence, over the medium term, to campaign in ways that lose close elections to people who would love to dismantle the already inadequate social safety net and encourage "old timey" open racists and even worse foreign policy than we have now. Those who feel passionately about guns should not be silent, but if you're running a surprisingly competitive campaign in a stubbornly red state, you should consider the political implications before committing to unrealistic goals that piss off people who could be persuaded to vote for you if they don't think guns are your priority.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

in almost every other stable country in the world

Yeah, except that's also not the US.

The other stable countries in the world have things like much lower rates of income inequality, single-payer health care, solid funding for education at all levels so that people aren't going into eye-watering levels of debt, and so on. And the countries that do suck in many of the same ways that the US does also have staggeringly high rates of violent crime in general, if not an significant gun crime.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, this is something I stand firmly behind. Fundamentally, our issue is social and cultural. We are armed, and so when we lash out, that has greater impact.

That doesn't mean we should disarm. We are armed for good reason. But we should address the underlying cultural issues.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

One hundred percent agree.

[-] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

in theory,

Communism works... in theory. your entire argument works... in theory.

Reality is much different.

[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Hence my entire final paragraph.

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