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All Stalin's Fault (lemmygrad.ml)
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[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago
[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I usually like ProleWiki but I'm not sure I can get behind this article. They leave out that Soviet calibers were found in the bodies, don't mention the testimony of Dmitry Tokarev, and cite Grover Furr, who is a meme for obvious reasons. It comes off as grasping at straws.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago

Did you ever read any of Furr's books? He source and explain his methodology 5 times better than most of the so called "historians" out there.

[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I haven't read any of his books, though I have read everything he's posted online (that I'm aware of). My issue isn't necessarily with his methodology so much as his motivated reasoning—though you're completely right that liberal historians don't do any better, so maybe I should be more charitable.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Every time i read someone bashing Furr, it's never anything substantial, always something like you did "he's a meme" or the most popular "he's a medieval historian therefore his thesis on another period are invalid". They made him a meme using their complete control over academia because they can't refute him, while at the same time i seen "leftists" cite long debunked or completely outrageous lies of Montefiore or Pipes. Hell, in Poland of all countries, Furr is met with complete and universal damnatio memoriae from all media and all academia, if you still don't believe it's not accidental.

[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Fair enough: it was wrong of me to use 'citing Furr' as a per se negative thing. The rest, I think, stands.

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Do you have a source for Soviet calibers found in the bodies and somewhere I could read Tokarev's testimony?

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