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Their hardware is also garbage. My MX Anywhere 3 lasted only two years. I had no brand Chinese mice that lasted longer.
sweats in 1 yr 10 mos of ownership What happened to it?
Capitalism happened. Designed to fail.
EVGA hardware sucks balls
Corsair hardware sucks balls
Razor hardware sucks balls
Logitech hardware sucks balls
Oddly enough, the only mouse that I've NEVER had issues with is a 5$ chinese MMO mouse with zero software or 'fancy crap' embedded. It just works. That mouse is now $50 for some reason.
Have to disagree on EVGA. I’ve purchased a lot of their hardware and any time I had an issue their support and RMAs were great. I’m really sad they got out of the video card business.
You disagree that they have hardware issues because they handled your return well when you had... hardware issues?
I have had probably 5 of their video cards and 4 or 5 of their power supplies. I've had one video card die a month before the 3 year warranty was up, and they sent me a much more powerful card as a replacement. That's good service.
I've had one power supply die and they cross shipped me a replacement, had it 3 days later.
Nothing is bulletproof, components fail. It's how the company handles it that matters, to me.
That means they have good customer service, but surely you see that every example is more data for the OPs claim that the hardware isn't up to snuff yeah?
No, I don't agree. What would a list of companies that never have hardware issues with their products look like? Spoiler alert, it would be a blank sheet of paper. Every company that makes electronics hardware has some level of defects. Perfection is an impossible standard to reach economically, and nothing lasts forever. If you have been lucky to not have hardware problems from a particular vendor, then that's it, just luck.
I've worked with enterprise network and server hardware for over 25 years now. Dell, HP, IBM, NetApp, EMC, Cisco, name any major tech hardware player and I've replaced their broken equipment in a datacenter. And all that equipment is (supposedly) built to a higher standard than consumer grade hardware. It still fails. Some companies handle that in a way that benefits the customer. Most don't. EVGA has always done it right that I've seen, so I have to give them props. Everything I ever bought from EVGA (or its RMA'd replacement) is still running in my house. Nothing has yet failed out of warranty in at least 10 years of buying their stuff. I'd call that a good track record.
EVGA is THE WORST imo
My 5dollarjunky mouse is running on 8 years now.
During those 8 years I attempted upgrades. I have 2 broken razor mine that won't left click constantly.
I have 3 EVGA x15 mice that won't stay connected. Issue persists on multiple computers and is seemingly random. I bought 1, and they sent me replacements twice.
I went back to my cheap Chinese mouse as a result.
I keep the garbage as a reminder to not buy those companies stuff.only thing I give EVGA credit for is their video cards. Amazing quality.
You got me there, I've never used one of their mice. I didn't even know they made them. I have only purchased video cards and power supplies from them, and haven't ever been disappointed. But no company always gets it right. Maybe they should stick to the things they're good at!
Evga makes baller PSUs as well
Agreed, I only use them or Seasonic, and it's been a long time since I bought a Seasonic.
I do give them credit for non accessory hardware. Amazing psu and video cards, accessories, trash.
Thanks, ill keep that in mind
I believe they are actually rebranded seasonic PSUs (which isn't uncommon for other brands as well)
Oh aye? Is that a recent development? I got mine right when the news as their leaving the GPU market broke (i liked the things commenters were saying about their quality). Mine is labeled evga still so i didn't know this.
Nah I think at least some of their PSUs have been Seasonic for a long time.
Apparently at least some of the higher end Corsair PSUs are also Seasonic.
Uh oh id better go read something afore i look even more ignorant lol. I haven't done research since i bought my psu.
I have to say i own a decent amount of Corsair hardware (kb+m, RAM, SSD and PSU), and none has ever given me an issue. Most of it I got a few years back so maybe that was before they declined?
Compared to Razer, where I've owned 3 mice and all of them failed one way or another. Decent keyboards though.
FYI many of Corsair's PSUs are just their branding slapped on a different company's part (made for them obviously), so some are okay to good, and some are trash
Edit: To be clear I use a ton of Corsair products (RAM, AiO, KB+M, Case, Fans) so not shitting on them, though their software is absolute dog shit tier. iCue will randomly disappear from my system every so often, only for all the files to still be there...but no executable.
Most of their products are produced in places like China but their RAM is still produced in Taiwan and high quality
Yes I did a decent amount of research on their PSUs, I managed to get one with a pretty solid reputation.
And I'm on Linux and use a community made software suite called CKB-Next, so I haven't had to deal with iCue in a couple years thankfully
Definitely capitalism. These companies are under constant pressure from shareholders to increase profits year over year.
Once they can't increase profits by growing the market share anymore, they increase it by making their products shittier.
Yes, some mid-low random mice can run for 10+ years, I had a couple. But on average they break much more frequently, and you have no guarantee to repair\replace them given by a producer\shop, that I also used when bought branded devices and was pretty happy with them returning money or giving me another one without much delays. You can afford up to 10 $5 mice before you get to the real treasure without stepping over a $50 mark, right, and it may become a frugal hobby, sometimes becoming into a hardware reselling game. But the gambling aspect, risky uncertainty is not for everyone, especially if we are talking something expensive like v-cards - in modern times, with integrated gfx having no problem supporting popular MMOs, those who still buy them really need them for some reason and getting them melt on the go is either a deep frustration or troubles at work, with hobbies. I, for once, can't afford to replace mine with prices still going crazy, even if it's 2-3 times cheaper than the pricey one, and still don't find a reason even though it's not as shiny as it was years ago. Comfort is a product too, and sometimes it's not just a facade.
Catastrophe
The left button trigger broke. I couldn't drag and click anymore.
Same thing happened with my MX Anywhere 2, but at least that one lasted four years.
Logitech is getting shittier...
I'm only a few months in 😬
On the other hand, I have Logitech keyboards and mice that I bought more than a decade ago still going strong
I'm extremely satisfied with my logitech mx master 3, the magnetic wheel is fucking amazing, but this is just my personal opinion, I haven't exhaustively tested many other logitech devices
In general their mice are weirdly perverse in the way they fail. I've never seen one fail in any way besides the buttons, usually failing into double-clicking. Like it feels like they would last super-long if they just used better components for the buttons. The mousewheel has never failed on me, the radio has never failed on me, the main sensor has never failed on me, nor the laser... just the clicky buttons.
Am on my second 502, the first one lasted until this year, from the release year. Phenomenal hardware. The only dud by them I had in the past 25 years were my current keyboard, the G512, that developed near-instant chatter.
Really? I still use one from 2014
Products 10 years ago were better made in general
I'm on my second one of their trackball mice in 8 years, and the first one only failed because I hit it too hard getting frustrated at a videogame. My G915 mechanical keyboard is going strong at 3 years old now, and my brother even left it upside down in a puddle once. I really don't get all these accessories of failing Logitech hardware.
If you really like rollerball mice and have the money, the ones I recommend are either the ELECOM Huge Trackball Mouse or the Gameball. The Elecom starts around $100 and the Gameball is around $300 depending where you live.
i wish there was an enthusiast custom mouse segment of the market like there is for mechKBs.
then we could simply build our own.
As a ounterpoint, I got a Logitech g700 a bajillion years ago that lasted thru my wow years iirc 2010-2018 and after that, it had a button problem where the left mouse button kept double clicking on its own, i sent a letter asking logitech how i could fix it and they sent me a g700s (the newer version) for free, that i am using right this second.
The scroll wheel button is a little loose but otherwise it's solid as hell.
But the software is actual bullshit that is not that intuitive and stops working randomly.
I forgive them. I dunno if they've fallen in quality since then however, which would really be a fucking shame cuz with my experience id recommend their hardware over many others.
The buttons on the G700s will also pop eventually. I recommend you learn how to take it apart and replace the switches before they go bad.
The G700s is kind of a pain to disassemble (and there’s a mod to make it easier to assemble and disassemble for the future).
The only thing close to a successor to that mouse is a G604, and not only did it get discontinued in a very short time frame, but it also has cheap switches. My G700s started double clicking after several years of use (I’d like to say 5?) but my G604 started double clicking after like two years. And let me tell you, yes you don’t need to mod it to make the insides more accessible, but the inside is much more annoying to navigate. Several different screw lengths and sizes, a lot of unintuitive plastic interlocking parts, as opposed to two stacked PCBs in the G700/G700s.
I’ve swapped the switches on both with switches made by Kailh that are supposedly much longer lasting. The G604 is basically perfect from a layout perspective (the rubber wears out much faster than the hard textured shell of a G700/G700s though, which I don’t like. I’ve superglued it back into place where it peeled, but really, it’s a shame how even Logitech makes things this low quality now. It’s both good and disappointing that the fixes are very easy, because yes you can fix them, but why the hell is that a point of failure in the first place?
The software was shit and it only got worse. So, you know. No notes there. Praying on my hands and knees for something like QMK to pop up that we can flash all our mice with once and for all.
My G700 just started having double click issues recently, after almost 12 years of heavy use. Debated disassembling it and replacing the switch, but it's so worn out, especially the scroll wheel, that I decided to search for a replacement mouse instead, as I couldn't find any new G700 or G700S in stores any more.
I really wanted a mouse with plenty of side buttons, so I replaced it with a Razer Naga V2 Pro with the 6-button side panel, which I really like so far (I was skeptical at first). Only thing I really miss is the Logitech "Infinite Scroll" zero friction scrolling.
I get the feeling their hardware quality is dropping fast. The old stuff was great.
My old MX Anywhere 2 survived four years of abuse before getting the double click issue, I've been using my G533 headset almost every day for five years now and it's still going strong, but the "top of the line" mouse I bought two years ago is already dead.