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    [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 205 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Man, wait until these people hear about the filesystem and kernel.

    [–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The very existence of a defined kernel is an insult to the Linux philosophy

    [–] psud@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

    The Linux kernel (the part that gives Linux the name) is antithetical to Linux philosophy? I could understand it being contrary to GNU philosophy

    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    hurd "exists"

    [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That's GNU/Hurd thank you

    [–] Gork@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

    yes mr stallman

    [–] radiant_bloom@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does it ? I thought it was never completed !

    On the other hand, if you want a microkernel that does exist, there’s Mach. But I don’t think you can replace Linux with it πŸ˜†

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago

    It's been two years away for the last 30 years.

    [–] psud@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yeah, there's a Debian implementation of GNU/hurd. Debian recommend you run it in a VM

    [–] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

    I won't bother. Sounds like hurd work.

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

    Hurd is supposed to work with GNU mach afaik

    [–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago

    In some ways I think the filesystem is philosophically the exact opposite of systemd

    I can boot my system with an ext4 root, with a btrfs /home...or vice versa. Or add some ZFS, or whatever. The filesystem is (with the exception of some special backup schemes) largely independent of the rest of the system, despite being of core importance.

    On the other hand, I can't change my init system (i.e., systemd) without serious, serious work.