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submitted 7 months ago by t3rmit3@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

But this, in fact, is what actual war looks like these days: Sometimes it’s a volley of 300 missiles and drones, and sometimes it is lean, targeted, and carried out covertly. Gone are the days of vast conquering armies and conventional military confrontations between two parties. So long as experts, the government, and the media worry only about a kind of war that is obsolete, it cannot see the war right in front of our faces.

Great article on the evolving face of warfare and how, as long-range and unmanned systems replace on-the-ground and manned conflict, people are assuaged into treating missiles and bombs being lobbed between countries as something "other" than war.

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[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If the ultimate goal of a war is to force one nation or group to surrender to another through military might

I don't think it is the ultimate goal of war, that's overly restricting the definition based on, as I said, this conception of war as only being these wide-ranging conflicts (really, what "total war" refers to). Many wars have been fought purely over control of land or resources, where surrender or government toppling was never the goal.

war, noun, ˈwȯr (1): a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations

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[-] sonori@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

Surrender of or the replacement of the government on that land or resources through military might either directly or indirectly is however the way control over those resources is achieved, and no, I am not just taking about total war, as one of my examples there was the Falkland’s war, which was not even close to a total war for either side.

Moreover your definition would seem not to apply to the current Iran- Israel conflict, as it is being discussed and decided on a case by case basis for both sides instead of an open and declared conflict.

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