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[-] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 12 points 1 year ago

It's sad, but it was obvious that interest rates were going to rise. I refinanced in 2020 with the longest fixed-rate available (and paid a penalty to do so) and dropped my amortization length by 10 years when it became painfully clear we were going to see high inflation from government policies overlapping over each other and there was a chance of the return of high interest rates as a result.

A lot of people will get burned on the way down, but it's good for society if housing is cheaper.

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I just don't see a way that prices can drop without a massive increase in supply. Even if the average joe stops buying they will have to rent somewhere. There will always be investment interest or property moguls who have the money keen to buy a source of guaranteed rental income.

[-] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We're starting to see institutional money leaving housing markets.

The money comes from debt, so as debt costs increase, the profit margin of buying homes decrease. As well, as the amount of money available to a common customer drops as interest rates rise, house prices will have to drop as a function of the laws of physics and mathematics -- The only way to keep increasing prices is to keep finding people who can afford higher prices.

The fact that there are still buyers doesn't mean prices can't drop, it's about the balance of buyers and sellers, and if people are dumping their houses at a loss because they can't afford to keep paying then that'll drive prices down by increasing sellers and decreasing buyers.

It'll play out in a bunch of ways because there's a bunch of stuff out there totally reliant on sucking up debt. Real estate bubbles around the world, zombie businesses, even the rich used debt as a tax vehicle for consumption since you can take out debt without paying taxes.

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I hope it doesn’t crash too hard. I just bought something on Saturday :/

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago

I hope the whole bloody thing burns to the ground.

I’ll never afford a house :/

[-] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 1 points 1 year ago

Typically it'd mostly just go sideways and wait for inflation to catch up.

[-] w2qw@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

A lot of the build to rent tax concessions seem to be trying to pull in more institutional investors. I would think that individual homeowners would be the ones more affected by interest rates.

[-] rumckle@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I agree that we definitely need more supply, but there are a few things that could happen as prices increase, eg people downsizing from large places to smaller places, and people sharing accommodation.

Also, hopefully some people will sell their Air BnBs, increasing the property on the market, they'll probably become Air BnBs again, but maybe it will help with prices.

Again, more supply is needed, and rich investors will probably have a field day, but even if prices don't drop, they should at least stop sky-rocketing.

this post was submitted on 31 Jul 2023
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