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Huh. So odd that, given how long ago this started, he just now decides to eliminate the law that this came from. During election year. Soooooo weird.
Edit: if you guys seriously have no problem with how Biden let the LGBTQ community get screwed over after all this time up until now, during election season of all times, I don't know what to tell you. The irony. I will die on this hill.
Edit: so I guess they have been working on this awhile. I still think the timing is incredibly sus, though. However, I am glad that they did at least start on this awhile back.
Nah. I think it's super convenient timing. This should've been one of the first things he did after winning the election. I think it's bullshit he pulled this out during election season, obviously in an attempt to win voters over.
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge @elbarto777 Yea, so let's all vote instead for the candidate who removed the protections of gay and transgender Americans in the first place!
Removed, civility.
Howabout the guy who keeps telling me to "shut the fuck up"? Or is that civil because it's towards someone who dares criticize Joe Biden?
We don't police every comment, just the ones that get reported.
But on the surface, someone telling you to shut up isn't the same thing as someone throwing insults.
Edit Found it, it wasn't just you. Removed and temp banned them.
So if i looked at you and said that, it'd be fine?
As a one off? Probably would be fine, in this case, the guy was on a tear and needed a time out.
Directing an insult straight at someone? That's out of line and gets removed ("Shut up you fucking donkey!"). Indirectly, also out of line, ("What are you, a fucking donkey?").
A simple STFU? Not as big a deal, but like I say, in THIS guys case? Repeated, at multiple people, with no other value to the comment? Yeah, no.
Thats much appreciated. Thanks for that, even if it wasnt directly for me. With that said, got any Biden criticisms you'd like to share then? Don't you think the timing here is sus?
I find Biden incredibly problematic for a variety of reasons. His withdrawl from Afghanistan was incompetently handled and when he got called out on it, his reaction was "Hey, we had to get out!" when that wasn't the question. Yes, we HAD to get out, the METHODOLOGY was the problem.
He has the same problem discussing the economy. People tell him they're struggling and his reaction is "Hey, the economy has never been stronger!"
All that said, he's a better choice than Trump, and Kennedy, Stein and West are all non-starters.
Yeah, I think he fumbled the withdrawal pretty hard, I think what, like 100 afghans and 13 Americans were killed because of it? And he basically abandoned a lot of our people to a grim fate. It wasn't just "We had to get out!" either. He also blamed the Trump administration for executing an agreement that "boxed in" America and "constricted" what they could do about it. I'm not sure I buy it, though. From what I've read about that situation it sounds more like a "fuck you trump!" act than a patriotic one. I believe there was enough openness in the agreement that it said if the Taliban failed to meet their end of things, the agreement could be null and void, but Biden ignored that part, and just ran with it. I hate Trump, and I do agree with you on that. He is still a significantly better choice, but unfortunately, given the fact that we are a two party system and always have been, even if I think it's bullshit, even if that's technically not true, we are very much at a point where we all need to vote for Biden or suffer the consequences. Regarding our economy, I don't have much more to add there. You're right. Our country is a mess, and his bullshit isn't helping anyone. And in my opinion, while I do understand it began awhile ago, I still find his timing with this LGBTQ stuff really convenient. I think one of his biggest issues, too, is that he isn't great at laying out specifics for things like being confronted about the economy or the things like the withdrawal. A simple deflection without accountability, and he and his administration moves on, not a great look.
Lol I was about to come out swinging at you until I read the whole comment. Well said.
Whoa there buddy who said I was voting for THAT administration? It's crazy, I know, but it's possible to be critical of someone who has your vote, just an fyi.
Nah, you're just a troll komrade
So criticism of Joe Biden makes me a "Russian agent"? Ah, ok. That's actually really sad. You guys need to get help if normal critique equals "Russian agent". It's crazy, I actually voted Biden and will be voting for him again. You are what's wrong with this country, folks. How very MAGA of you.
Who are you again? Lmao
You ok man? Doing alright?
D'awwwww. I may be a cold, unfeeling emotionless bot, but I love you too <3
Haha, sick. You're a very angry and consequently very funny guy. By all means, you do you. I'll stop responding eventually when I'm bored of this but right now it's actually really entertaining watching you lol
Removed, civility, temp ban. Get a new schtick.
There needs to be something like the narcissists prayer for people who say stuff like this.
Let's call it the haters prayer.
"He didn't help."
"And if he did, it wasn't even that great."
"And if it was, it's not even really due to him"
"And if it was, it still doesn't matter due to $INSERT_WHATABOUTISM_HERE"
"And if it still matters, he only did it to help himself (get elected)."
Amen.
Saving this for later use cause god knows I'll need it.
This bill doesn't affect me and I still think it's suspiciously timed. So how is this narcissism? Genocide Joe sucks. Too say otherwise is lying to yourself and others
I never said this was narcissistic, I meant that, similar to the moving goalposts of the narcissists prayer being used by a narcissist for justification, some look for more and more reasons to discount good things that others have done.
It's called "criticism". Your shortsided-ness must not do you any favors.
Oh you can criticize all you want.
Does the fact that the article states the administrations intended to work on this in 2021, and has been working on that since then earn them any grace?
How come it's just now going into effect?
Fuck if I know, do you know how long the process typically takes? I certainly don't. I was googling this while walking the dog, I'm no expert.
I work as a government contractor and from my experience things can be held up by the silliest little things, and processes take a lot of time.
When the recent XZ security exploit, everyone was all worried about it nearly making it's way into Debian, a popular flavor of Linux, and at work we just laughed and said that means we'd have to worry about it it in 10 years because we're that slow.
Well then, yeah, I'd say it'd earn them a little grace, and I appreciate you actually talking about it instead of going down the "uR uH rUsSiAn TrOlL111one!" path. I still think it's convenient timing, but it's nice to see this was at least set into motion awhile back.
Yeah, an argument could be made that 2022 was a Senate election year, and this was fueled by that, but at that point we're invalidating 2/4 years a president has to make changes.
On top of this, I wouldn't be surprised by the first year being slow as they get situated, meaning year 3 is the only year that "sincere" change can be expected to be made, which is kind of....harsh. I'd hate for my accomplishments to only count 25% of the time.
I also really appreciate the discourse - I hope you have a great day.
Now that I think about it, didn't Biden come into a locked GOP senate? I suppose it could be possible they were making it difficult as well maybe? Anyhow yeah, same. Thanks for the engaging conversation choom.