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If it is still convertible between handheld and console, and is fully compatible with Switch titles, Nintendo might have finally gotten a transition to a new console right. I don’t need another TV-bound console, but I would gladly take a more capable Switch.
They usually got generational transitions correct with their handhelds, but always flubbed it with the consoles. Hopefully now that they’re one and the same there won’t be a problem.
It seems like a no-brainer to just make a better Switch, so I’m hoping for the same things as you. I really hope they see that the best thing they can do is the most “boring” thing: just make it more powerful. Give it maybe a better screen and more battery life. Maybe update the joycons (but still use the form factor because people have multiple joycons and wouldn’t it be nice to just use the things you already have?). But also let me play all my switch games. And maybe recent releases (uhh Zelda) could easily work on this system with better framerates.
Stuff like that is all I need. We tried the Wii, and it was fun for a time. The Wii U was interesting but obviously not the right choice. But the Switch idea is so excellent it just seems like they’d be fools to try and change it up significantly.
so Nintendo's next console will be a fishing rod with 3 buttons that uses a smart watch as its display.
Nintendos making thePlaydate 2?!
Especially when the Steam Deck also exists now, it seems important for nintendo to stay in that area now that they’ve entered it.
This is what scares me the most.
I absolutely agree that they need to "play it safe" this time.
But for their consoles they have had a "it's not worth launching something unless it's really innovative" philosophy for quite some time. And if they decide on some bonkers idea that screws with my simple wish, a better switch, I think I'm going to be disappointed.
And I say this as a guy who has loved Nintendo and their products since I got my NES back in the 90s. I stood in line to get the Wii at launch, heck I even liked my Wii U. (Even if it was under powered and confusingly marketed, I liked that they tried to do something new...)
But this time Nintendo, just stick to a good, solid, backwards compatible , iteration on your original idea.
I loved my Wii U. I was actually skeptical of the Switch initially, and for the first time didn’t buy a day-one Nintendo console. I played BotW on my Wii U and waited for that Splatoon 2 bundle for the Switch before I bought one. Of course, now I love the Switch.
I do not say this to disparage the man, but since Iwata passed, Nintendo has been much more of a standard corporation. I think they will just do a traditional switch successor this time.
I think it will definitely ve backwards compatible(the wii could play gamecube games, the wiiu could play wii games, the 3ds could play ds games etc.) Nintendo has always supported at least one system jump except for wiiu to switch (for formfactor reasons) but switchgames are so small i dont think fitting them into their next console would be as challenging/impossible as shoving a disc drive into the switch.
....what are you talking about. Nes wasn't compatible with snes, snes not compatible with N64, N64 not compatible with GameCube. GameCube was compatible with wii/Wii u but Wii u wasn't compatible with the switch. Their track record shows they are very hit and miss, especially since they have the new mentality of porting games to their online service.
I probably should’ve read the article before commenting, but as a Lemming I have kept some of my worst Redditor tendencies.
Shame about LCD vs OLED (the OLED Switch is seriously beautiful), but understandable I suppose. I just hope they get backwards compatibility and library retention/management right.
If it’s a hit maybe they’ll come out with a very slightly fancier model with oled later, just like the current switch
Pretty much a guarantee they will.
There are high quality traditional LCDs that are viable bang-for-the-buck alternatives to OLED. There are, of course, poor quality LCD screens as well (looking at you, Steam Deck).
I’ll remain optimistic.
Ain’t that the truth. I didn’t realize the screen on my iPad wasn’t OLED at first, until I noticed some very localized backlight bleeding around white against black and looked it up. There are magical things to be done with regional dimming.
OLED's one of those things you notice more with larger screens in dark rooms. Even in a well lit shop it's hard to see much difference between OLED and a decent LCD.
I would think VR is the only real great use of smaller screen OLED.
I’d bet $1000 the Switch won’t have regional dimming. It should still look pretty good.
I agree, I’m just amazed how far LCD has come.
GameCube to Wii was fine.
As for being fully compatible with the Switch, I don't see why it wouldn't be if they are doing another ARM based system. The Switch is not exactly difficult to emulate anymore considering phones have been able to do it for a couple years now.
So was Wii to Wii U.
Phones are generally ARM based so I'm not sure that's a convincing argument.
However, Steam Deck, which is AMD64 based seems to also be able to manage Switch stuff pretty well from what I've seen online so there's that.
Really, though, I kinda wish Nintendo would step back from core hardware - or at least move to a partnership on that - and look more at production of software + accessories. Most of their innovation could still be captured with new accessories and games are where the really shine, but I do feel like the exclusivity is kinda a bit overdone and core hardware is always lacklustre (thorough they do still in optimisation for their own titles).
My guess is that it won't be. Nintendo is a toy company. They've never once just done an iterative version of a console. There's always some new gimmick, usually based around input, that they have to fuck with that makes everything incompatible.
GB ( -> GBC) -> GBA -> DS -> 3DS were all backwards compatible with the first previous system
This was only true since the Wii.
NES - The original
SNES - Changed the controller
N64 - Changed the controller
Gamecube - Changed the controller, moved to discs
Wii - Changed the controller, added motion controls
WiiU - Changed the controller, added screen to controller with 'console' kept as a separate box
Switch - Integrated the screen and the console into one form factor
Meanwhile, look at the XBOX platform. After going to the 360 controller, the form factor of 'standard' gamepad + separate console box has been the same for 3 generations now without any significant changes other than more powerful hardware. The Kinect was an attempt to encroach on Nintendo's motion-controls turf but it, like the Playstation Move, withered on the vine when first party products intended for them turned out to be turds.