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"...there came a point, a few weeks ago, when I realized, the government isn’t going to end the war, isn’t bringing the hostages back, and isn’t helping the evacuees.”

" Increasingly, Netanyahu’s many opponents are questioning his handling of the war. Others are questioning the prime minister’s motives, suggesting his political interest lies in the continuation of the fighting, which inevitably delays his political demise. Netanyahu is currently under trial on various charges of corruption."

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[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Smoke. In an urban environment you need lots of smoke to move around. Otherwise you have to use more force which can risk civilians.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah cause we all know Israel values the lives of Palestine civilians 🙄

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago
[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

Why are you using an opinion article from a conservative think tank? This has no value in proving your argument, it’s just a webpage that confirms your beliefs.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

You mean why would I use a conservative source on a consecutive forum? Aka the truth.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

Oh geez so you really are just using this community to self-confirm your bias and assert your correctness, rather than actually have any kind of real discussion with other users. Cause if it were the second thing you wouldn’t have just called an op piece “the truth”.

Cringey af my guy.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

You’re not having a discussion. You’re crying about the source.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

Interesting that rather than simply admit “yeah you know what? My source is an opinion article and not necessarily fact” you have to frame it as me crying about it so you can avoid admitting to yourself that maybe you made a bad call.

Say whatever you want to say to make yourself feel superior, I’m simply happy knowing I’m right about this and you have no substantial response, like the other countless threads you’ve dipped out of throughout the week.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

You didn’t offer a counter. You offered whining about it.

I can’t have a conversation about crying. Offer a counter cite.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s not my job to do the arguing for you, which is basically the same thing you said to me last week when the inverse happened in another thread. You gave a bad reference, it’s that simple.

I guess that means you’re welcome to cry about it.

In the meantime I welcome anything that’s not just some conservative think tank dude’s published thoughts.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

No, the reference is good, but you want to whine about it.

It is well known Hamas uses people as human shields. You have yet to counter that.

https://stratcomcoe.org/publications/hybrid-threats-hamas-use-of-human-shields-in-gaza/87

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/26/amnesty-international-says-hamas-committed-war-crimes-too/

NATO States it, and Amnesty International states it, yet you don't offer a counterpoint other than but why is a conservative posting a conservative source in a conservative forum.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hahaha you can’t provide a good source to save your life and rather than actually try you’re just making it other people’s problem 🤣

Even Amnesty International has been found by the US Government of being one-sided and biased.

Washington post article is another opinion article, AND it’s paywalled.

Stratcomcoe just 404’s.

Now I’m starting to think you’re straight up incapable of finding a credible source for your arguments. Maybe that just means your arguments aren’t credible? You should read Rule 2.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hahaha you can’t provide a good source to save your life and rather than actually try you’re just making it other people’s problem 🤣

Rule 2 - my source is a reliable conservative source.

You’re free to counter cite when you’ve refused to do because you know I’m right.

I just cited you nato and amnesty international Both are reliable sources.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

Well it’s reliably conservative, I’ll give you that. The problem is when you’re only paying attention to conservative sources you keep yourself in a little echo chamber and never actually know what’s going on.

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

It isn’t my job to seek out other sources. I seek out the truth. I just cited three serious to your zero.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s also not my job to seek out other sources just because yours are bad, so where is this thread going?

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Sounds you are arguing in bad faith. That’s where the argument is going

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

lol for what, not being convinced by a biased news source? If you’re correct then your argument should hold up to basic scrutiny, and should be available in information sources other than conservative opinion articles.

A conservative saying “I’m right because I found a conservative person on the internet that says the same thing” isn’t a good faith argument either. It’s textbook confirmation bias. It also convinces literally nobody, which is probably why most of the activity on this community is from people with dissenting opinions.

But feel free to continue deluding yourself with even more groupthink, it’s your community.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

You think amnesty internal is conservative ? That’s trolling.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I didn’t say conservative, I said one-sided.

Bold of you to assume that’s the side.

I also didn’t say I believed they were, they’ve just been found to have been previously by entities such as the US Government, which you’ve previously aligned with on issues like Israel/Palestine.

I guess you only believe government entities when they say what you want to hear.

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