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[-] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Someone please explain to me how giving food to another person is illegal. This is by far the most dystopian thing I've ever read, fiction included.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Am not defending this law at all, but the thinking behind it is twofold:

  1. you might be handing out tainted or expired food
  2. the bigger issue: you are creating a "nuisance" on the property where you're doing it, as large groups of homeless people gather there. Some would say it's a safety concern, for example handing out free food at the corner of a primary school.

Again, I'm not agreeing with either point, but these are arguments I have heard from people who back such laws.

To the second point though, I've seen it firsthand. Salt Lake City tried to do a good thing by making the public library a homeless-friendly zone by handing out free food and allowing access to WiFi. This caused a large amount of homeless to hang out there all the time, and some of them would harass and attack non-homeless patrons of the library to the point that pretty much all of them stopped coming to the library entirely, and the area became a no-go zone.

The real issue is that a large amount of homeless people have severe mental illnesses (since public sanitariums all closed in the 70s). So where there are big congregations of homeless, there will inevitably be harassment and possible violence. Cities don't want people feeding the homeless at any old public building to avoid these situations, hence the laws, which allow you to do it only at certain places the city allows.

[-] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 15 points 1 year ago

@trias10 @Peruvian_Skies

The real issue is that too many Americans have bought into the bootstrap theory and couldn't give a shit about their neighbours who don't have a place to live or food to eat.

Take care of those 2 things first and there won't be an issue of people hanging out where it's warm/cool and food is being supplied.

[-] tdgoodman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

A solution requires more than just providing food and shelter. We have a class of people who are marginally mentally ill or barely literate. They do not function well enough to hold down a job or fill out a welfare form, but they function too well to require that they be locked up. These people need a semi-monitored place with enough oversight to keep them safe. The street can't do that, but they have no other place to go.

[-] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@tdgoodman

You're right. But food and shelter is a good place to start lest we overwhelm the pearl clutchers with too many requests all at once.

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