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@BobaFuttbucker @jimbolauski Beating someone for not being #Muslim is not part of #Islam, I would argue
The other user’s comment suggests the point that not all white supremacists are bad, whereas most Muslims do not beat up others. Since white supremacy is itself the belief that one race is superior to others, that makes them the worse one. Therefore, your argument is irrelevant.
If I misunderstood their comment then I will allow them to clarify.
If I did not misunderstand and you disagree, that shows how little you know about Islam.
@BobaFuttbucker Interesting. You had accused the OP of sharing this post in order to exaggerate the danger of violent Muslims. @jimbolauski accused you of doing the same thing about Nazis.
Exaggerating the violence of a particular group is not the same as saying that the particular group is violent.
lol you have completely missed the core of my response.
How does one exaggerate the danger of Nazis? I am DYING to know.
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> How does one exaggerate the danger of Nazis? I am DYING to know.
By making it seem like there are more Nazis than there actually are
Well I didn’t bring Nazis into this conversation, and it doesn’t make sense to unless you’re making the point that they’re not all bad.
@BobaFuttbucker I'm not denying that Nazis are bad at all, and I don't think that @jimbolauski was either. However, like violent Muslims, they're a severe minority in the #USA that doesn't pose a significant danger to the general population. The comparison is apt
It’s really not though, you’re either choosing consciously to ignore the point that even making this comparison suggests that not all nazis are bad, or you genuinely don’t understand how bad of an argument that is.
Instead you’re shifting the goalposts to frame nazis as a USA minority so as to escape directly addressing this point cause it would look bad on your other social media feeds. This is an equally bad take.
You may not be denying it, but you’re certainly defending the attempted logic.
@BobaFuttbucker We're getting off track, apparently intentionally. You seem pretty bad faith in this thread (not surprising considering your conduct in previous threads of ours, to be fair), so I think I'm going to end this here, and mute you so that I can focus on having more intelligent conversations.
Hahahaha you still can’t directly address the flaw in the logic you’re arguing so you finally noped out.
It’s an apples and oranges comparison. In order for your argument to make sense you have to provide an example of any nazi that is not a racist piece of shit. Since you can’t do that, you have failed to make any kind of a point.
I’ll be waiting if you decide to engage in a good faith discussion, which is all I’ve tried to do here. If your argument is true, it should hold up to even a TINY amount of scrutiny. But it doesn’t, so it isn’t.
Fun fact: Nazis are considered far-right on the political spectrum. I wonder if that’s why I touched a nerve here.
@BobaFuttbucker @jimbolauski I could make an article saying "This Pizza In #Atlanta Is Awful"; accusing me of making it seem like there's more bad pizza in #Atlanta than there actually is is different than saying I'm accusing all #Atlanta pizza of being bad.
lol you did not just try and compare Islam and nazis to pizza. You understand the difference, yeah?
Let me try this using your own comparison: If another pizza place made a pizza exclusively out of shit, there’s no defending shit pizzas. Even if you personally are a fan. It’s still literal shit.
If you’re comparing Islam and Nazis, then they must be like-for-like in order for your comparison to make sense.
So is Nazism a religion? And are you seriously defending it right now? Are you sure you want to die on that hill?
@BobaFuttbucker Dude ain't never heard of analogies before lol
Orrrrrrrrrr you just don’t understand how broken this particular analogy is.
The only reason you would ever bring nazis into this analogy is to make the point that they’re not all bad. I’m simply asking for that clarification. Because if yes, you’re a nazi sympathizer. If no, then you don’t understand the analogy.
Or you can just keep tagging me and refusing to directly answer to make your federated account look good.
@BobaFuttbucker I think it's not smart to make sweeping statements like "everyone in this group is bad". Nazism is bad, and if you had to draw #Nazi names out of a hat, you'd probably find a bad person 9 out of 10 times.
The analogy isn't broken, you just don't like it because you disagree with the conclusion. In your mind, the threat of Nazis can't possibly be exaggerated, because you REALLY don't like them. I don't like them either, but that doesn't make them the greatest threat known to man.
Now we’re getting somewhere. Please describe a situation where any nazi is good. Otherwise your reply makes no fucking sense.
Not all Muslims are violent. But all white supremacists are racist pieces of shit, and all Nazis support the totalitarian ideology that is Nazism.
Also what the fuck, Nazis literally killed 6 million Jews.
Oskar Schindler was a good man. He was a Nazi.
The thing is, people are not good or bad. We are all nuanced. There are several Nazis honored by the Jews.
If a Jew can honor a nazi, then maybe you should see the world for what it is. Complicated.
Id argue that it is. Look at the muslim world, its pretty fucked up actually.