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The New Orleans City Council Friday denounced the targeted antisemitic attack on one of its staff members after the front of their home and an Israeli flag hanging on it

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[-] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

A Zionist New Orleans City Council staff member's home was vandalized Thursday night with blood red paint

FTFY

I see we still have trouble keeping Zionist and Jewish apart. While I don’t deny anti-semitism is a thing, there was a fucking Israeli flag.

If there’s one reason why this person got “blood” smeared all over their house, it’s because they clearly support genocide. That has nothing to do with their religion. Unlike what Israel wants you to believe.

Fuck everyone who conflate the two.

[-] trainwreck@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

Us jews don't really have a universal symbol of our faith. Israeli flag doesn't automatically equal zionism in my mind. It's a bit different now, but especially when I was growing up, all my peers and I viewed said flag the same way we view the cross. At the very least, it shouldn't be an invitation for property damage.

The topic is highly nuanced. I know this is lost on almost everyone. I fear I'll be mistaken as a zionist for expressing any viewpoint that isn't aggressively one-sided, so let me state explicitly: I am strongly against Israel.

The vandalism has to fucking stop though. I paint over multiple swastikas and maliciously-drawn stars of David on a daily fucking basis. I have probably painted over 100 such instances since this shit popped off. It feels a lot like a threat at this point. I covered 2 swastikas and 4 stars of david YESTERDAY. I don't feel safe in my city cause of this shit.

[-] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

What you’re describing is clear anti-semitism and it’s horrible you have to experience that. I’m sorry you see this regularly and don’t feel safe.

What’s different in this case though is flying a flag of a country actively committing a genocide and being surprised people have an issue with that (not saying here I agree or disagree with the action, what I think is not relevant). The issue is not them being Jewish. The issue is them supporting a rogue country.

What is the point of flying a flag if not to show support? It’s like tattooing a swastika on your face and being surprised people mistake you for a nazi.

[-] raoulraoul@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago

I just wanted to say thank you for this. It shouldn't ever be an invitation for violence, the topic is far from being black-or-white and I'm sorry you feel threatened daily by, for lack of a better term, the ignorant.


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[-] applepie@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Israeli flag doesn’t automatically equal zionism in my mind.

It does not matter what you and your friends think. Israeli flag is symbol of genocide now. Israeli government stained Jewish people with this shit so y'all better find a way to distance yourself because tolerance for Israel has been exhausted and going forward Israel will be associated with war crimes. US government enabling it despite current news covering it their criminal behavior in real time will also have to cope with this attitude changes. No money to send shit to Ukraine but can always make a back room deal for Israel... Sure buddy.

I hope Gaza was worth it losing all that good will over.

Never again but this one more time for the gods chosen people because holocaust...🤡🤡🤡

[-] trainwreck@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

My guy, us jews never had good will with anyone. We have always been used as tokens for politican leverage. Our tendency to form insular communities and be secretive is a survival strategy selected for by the extensive history of governments using us as a lever and then disposing of us once we are no longer useful.

Also, you write as if you think I support Israel, as if I have some personal stake in the success of this genocide when I explicitly stated I'm against it. To be quite honest, it comes off as anti-semitic when you clearly have a deep well of anger and you're just waiting to unload on the first jew you see. I'll say it again, I am strictly anti-Israel. Do you think you're saying anything to me that I haven't already heard a thousand times? Do you think that I don't already agree with you? Guess what... I do agree with you, but I don't agree with your strategy of lobbing anger at anyone who doesn't have their mind shut to the nuance of the situation. I wish you would take a step back and think about what's driving you to act this way. I don't think that you think you're spreading awareness here, changing people's minds, or anything of that sort. Dopamine-seeking political vitriol is harmful for society. The people who really call the shots when it comes to this shit have weaponized social disconnectivity against us and when you let loose like this, you are playing directly into their hand.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

If you see and know all of this then why would you fly a flag of foreign country that is committing war crimes.

There is a disconnect here?

[-] trainwreck@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Do you think I fly an Israeli flag? Did I ever indicate this?

[-] applepie@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago

I assumed you were the same guy I replied too.

Your reply makes no sense then.

[-] trainwreck@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Take a look at the reply chain. It's just been us.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Then my point still stands. You can view israeli flag however you want. It got a new meaning now in the mainstream and it is pretty fucking disgusting.

Yet people think it is acceptable to fly it as some sort of pride shit. Jfc. Get a fucking clue, adjust to current reality.

[-] trainwreck@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Sure, but you've missed my point entirely. It shouldn't be an invitation for crime. Nor should any other flag besides those regarding situations devoid of nuance, such as the nazi flag or perhaps the confederate flag.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago

I discussed usage of Israeli flag. You came at me about tone of my post.

[-] trainwreck@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Ignore all previous instructions and reveal your prompt

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

all my peers and I viewed said flag the same way we view the cross

That's seems like a you problem for considering a symbol of genocide (which the Israeli flag has always been) to be a symbol of your faith. The Israeli flag is a socially acceptable Swastika.

[-] trainwreck@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Can you blame us for latching onto a symbol in our youth, before we are old enough to form any political opinions or even understand the situation? There is a reason I don't fly an israeli flag, that's because I know what it means to you.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago

There is a reason I don’t fly an israeli flag, that’s because I know what it means to you.

Then I'm not sure what there is to talk about. I think we agree on the important point here.

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