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President Volodymyr Zelensky believes that Ukraine's partners "are afraid of Russia losing the war" and would like Kyiv "to win in such a way that Russia does not lose," Zelensky said in a meeting with journalists attended by the Kyiv Independent.

Kyiv's allies "fear" Russia's loss in the war against Ukraine because it would involve "unpredictable geopolitics," according to Zelensky. "I don't think it works that way. For Ukraine to win, we need to be given everything with which one can win," he said.

His statement came on May 16 amid Russia's large-scale offensive in Kharkiv Oblast and ongoing heavy battles further east. In a week, Russian troops managed to advance as far as 10 kilometers in the northern part of Kharkiv Oblast, according to Zelensky.

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

While we really don't want a state with thousands of nukes to splinter, I doubt that any policy writers in DC feel that way, given the eulogies they gave to Navalny, a guy who had politics somewhere around Mussolini's and made Putin look like a dove.

But also the fact that we have like 8000 tanks in the desert that we're not sending tells me that they'd rather fight Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood than actually break Russia so who knows.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

While we really don’t want a state with thousands of nukes to splinter

People said that would happen after the fall of the USSR too. Turns out treaties and agreements can do a lot to stop things like that quickly.

On the other hand, such an agreement is what Russia is violating right now.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, circumstances are very different now. Back then the Russian bourgeoisie thought they'd get to join the club. Now they have very little incentive to abide such deals.

Also there's way more right-wing psychos.

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

i remember several nerds mentioning how theyd see nuclear weapons on the black market around the fall of USSR and notified the feds. apparently it was a pretty major undertaking.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I think this hard divider in history is a false narrative. In a sense, the current war, is a continuation of the USSR falling apart, and exactly 1 of those quickly made treaties is to blame: the one that de-nuked ukraine in return for safety guarantees.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Russia didn't splinter with the fall of the USSR. People who had control of the nukes retained their control. And Ukraine was forced to move theirs to Russia.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago

Hi can you point me to more information wrt Nalvany assertion, please? Tyia

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny#Political_positions

Navalny co-founded the National Russian Liberation Movement, known as NAROD (The People), which sets immigration policy as a priority.[437] The movement allied itself with two nationalist groups, the Movement Against Illegal Immigration and Great Russia

Those groups are both pretty big on fashy iconography

In the same year, he released several anti-immigration videos,[439][440][441][442] including one where he advocated the deportation of migrants.[443] In one of the videos, in which he advocates for gun rights, he compares Muslims from the Caucasus to cockroaches and mimics shooting one who attempts to "attack" him.

His views on foreign policy evolved over time.[448] He had initially supported the Russo-Georgian War in 2008,[456] having asked the Russian army to strike the Georgian General Staff, calling Georgians "rodents"[457] and requesting that all Georgian citizens be expelled from the Russian Federation.[458] He later apologized for insulting the Georgians, while stating that his principled position remained unchanged.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

Oh wow. That's not good. Thank you for the reference and quick reply.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

IKR. The way such easily accessible information was entirely ignored in western media insane.

People look at me like I'm crazy when I say portraying the guy as Putin's biggest rival is sillier than if Russian papers started claiming Pete Buttigeig was Trump's biggest rival, since at least Mayo Pete didn't come in 4th in a mayoral race.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah. I'm kind of embarrassed I didn't even think of Wikipedia. I just figured anything relevant would be not there or held in "talk."

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