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[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 99 points 5 months ago

Maybe, if reviewers were paid for their job they could actually focus on reading the paper and those things wouldn't slide. But then Elsevier shareholders could only buy one yacht a year instead of two and that would be a nightmare...

[-] adenoid@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

Elsevier pays its reviewers very well! In fact, in exchange for my last review, I received a free month of ScienceDirect and Scopus...

... Which my institution already pays for. Honestly it's almost more insulting than getting nothing.

I try to provide thorough reviews for about twice as many articles as I publish in an effort to sort of repay the scientific community for taking the time to review my own articles, but in academia reviewing is rewarded far less than publishing. Paid reviews sound good but I'd be concerned that some would abuse this system for easy cash and review quality would decrease (not that it helped in this case). If full open access publishing is not available across the board (it should be), I would love it if I could earn open access credits for my publications in exchange for providing reviews.

[-] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've always wondered if some sort of decentralized, community-led system would be better than the current peer review process.

That is, someone can submit their paper and it's publicly available for all to read, then people with expertise in fields relevant to that paper could review and rate its quality.

Now that I think about it it's conceptually similar to Twitter's community notes, where anyone with enough reputation can write a note and if others rate it as helpful it's shown to everyone. Though unlike Twitter there would obviously need to be some kind of vetting process so that it's not just random people submitting and rating papers.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Perhaps a Lemmy server, in which only moderator-approved users can vote on posts?

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I feel like I've seen this model before, I know I've heard it. There's better ways to do it than your suggestion, but it's there in spirit. Science is a conversation, it would be a really cool idea to make room for things like this. In the meantime, check out Pubpeer, it's got extensions for browsers. Super useful and you have to attach your ORCID to be verified. Everyone can read it though.

[-] bananabenana@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Open access credits is a fantastic idea. Unfortunately it goes against the business model of these parasites. Ultimately, these businesses provide little to no actual value except siphoning taxpayer money. I really prefer eLifes current model but it would be great if it was cheaper. arXiv, Biorxiv provides a better service than most journals IMO

Also I agree with the reviewing seriously and twice as often as publishing. Many people leave academia so reviewing more can cover them.

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

Perhaps paid reviews would increase quality because unpaid reviews are more susceptible to corruption

[-] match@pawb.social 6 points 5 months ago

Fuck that, they should pay special bounty hunters to expose LLM garbage, I'd take that job instantly

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