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it's accurate though.
The amount of PS users i see trying gimp for all of about 2 seconds and then shitting themselves when it isn't exactly the same as PS is funny to me.
There are important technological differences i suppose, but i rarely see people complain about that.
GIMP is a monster, as is PS. There is no getting around it.
I don't think that GIMP should be the same, but it does have issues with usability. And when you search "how to do X in gimp", you'll probably find a 10 steps guide, while in PS that'd be a couple of clicks. There's no DDS plugin that supports all compression methods at all. There are so many things that won't go away no matter how many seconds or minutes or years you'll put into learning GIMP.
You could probably use a Python script to handle any missing compression methods. Gimp is more readily extensible.
i'm not super intimate with GIMP, as an amateur myself, but aren't like 90% of actions keybound? At least the commonly used ones? Seems like it would be beneficial to just learn them.
The DDS plugin isn't a usability issue, that's a feature issue.
Show me how to change 1 pixel in an image. I'd actually be truthfully thankful and will consider to try to use gimp again (last time I tried the mouse didn't position/choose the zoomed in pixels correctly).
Show me how to open an image, make a small modification, then:
(step 2) save it and close GIMP under 10 clicks.
They deliberately changed so you can't save your modified image? I mean WTF? You have to export it with all the popups as you overwrite, hold your breath, the image that you opened and want to save!!1!.
Then trying to nag you into saving it to some unknown unused bizarre gimp extension.
It's like they don't want people to switch. And it's such a shame as the soft is getting better and better all the time.
File -> Overwrite (2 clicks)
File -> Quit (2 clicks)
Yes I want to quit, even though I haven't saved it as an .xpf file (1 click)
Total: 5 clicks
It's more like File-> export->select PNG->save->select your file(that you just opened and modified)->save->yes I want to overwrite it THEN close the image in Gimp->no I don't want to save image.xpf.
Instead of a CTRL+S
I mean sometimes you'd probably missclick too...
File > overwrite
Bind it to Ctrl+s if you want.
It only saves as an xcf project if you choose save instead of overwrite.
the fuck do you mean "it's more like" i just reproduced those 5 steps using my copy of gimp
Not saving a project file, but the image file you just opened. Learn to read, sheesh.
like you are aware that overwriting the file you opened, as opposed to saving a project file, is what I just told you how to do in 5 clicks?
That's already insane IMO. But yes okay not the hyperbole of 10 clicks, "only 5", I'll give you that 😊.
Cheers
Yes, that is what those steps do
You mean saving a project file? The same way you'd save a PSD file in PS, so you can actually save all your layers and go back to make an edit? It's been a while since I've used Photoshop, but I'm pretty sure both GIMP and PS offer two different workflows of saving/exporting your work and they are just named differently and have different keybinds. I have no idea how you can act like you actually tried to use GIMP as something other than a drop-in replacement for PS, but then call the default GIMP project file format "unknown, unused and bizarre"...
No, I'm not talking about project files, they are fine, I'm talking about opening an image, do some basic stuff and saving it. Image editing.
There are two ways to save your work in either program. You can save your actual work, so you can continue editing at some point and not lose stuff like layers, image quality and other information or you can export your work into some kind of image file, optionally compressing it and discarding extra information about the project. I think GIMP even offers a shortcut for this called "Overwrite ...". How is this an issue?
Lol you're sure tone-deaf.
File > overwrite yourimage.jpeg
Ctrl+Q
That's 2 mouse clicks and one keyboard shortcut.
You can even make number 1 keyboard shortcut if you want. How is that any more laborious than photoshop?
i would assume the dropper tool, or something similar. I've never actually tried, as i do more image editing, rather than pixel doctoring, but i imagine it's possible. You could probably also just set the brush size to be 1 px. That would probably work.
i don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with the mouse tbh. Keybinds are better, though less intuitive, and at the end of the day, it doesn't really make a significant difference, because if you wanted to do something quickly, you would simply use keybinds.
As for me though, i can open GIMP without touching my mouse, make a handful of edits, probably stitch a couple images together all without touching my mouse, and then save export and close GIMP, without having touched my mouse. But i'm not a try hard, so lol.
idk what you're even talking about here. You should absolutely just be able to hit CTRL s and have it do a project save, or probably the other bind, for the save as, and then just manually rename it.
you mean the XCF format? I'm pretty sure PS just works with those, if not it's probably just an average adobe skill issue session at play. They're fine.
what could they do to make people want to switch? Copy photoshop? Use PSD? I don't disagree that the UI is a bit of a mess tbh, that's just how mouse navigated UI tends to be at the end of the day. Shitty.
do you fucking hear yourself
yeah i hear myself just fine, i'm a WM user. I just don't use GIMP that heavily.
I could never get on with either of them. I was always a Paint Shop Pro man.
Have to use Paint.NET these days.
im a certified GIMP amateur. I just make shitposts in GIMP from time to time.
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