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[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 months ago

What a load of utter bullshit xD

[-] rentar42@kbin.social 12 points 5 months ago

But is it any more bullshit than any other saint? I don't think it is.

[-] rikudou 18 points 5 months ago

In a sense, yes. All those other fuckers are a distant past when people were dumber and the Catholic church was a global political power.

At least to me it's more acceptable that they did it to maintain control over a whole continent, that's human behaviour and perfectly understandable, even if shitty. But this here is worse because there's no other reason than people truly believing in it.

I'm kinda afraid when I'm surrounded by psychos whose imaginary all-powerful friend tells them what to do and who believe a random dead dude did a miracle.

[-] rentar42@kbin.social 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

At a quick, manual count the roman catholic church has canonized about 40 new saints since 2000. Not all those other fuckers are in the distant past ;-)

I hear you, but I still think that the idea of the church and saints hasn't gotten any worse: it's "just" that the rest of the world has moved on when they haven't (which is basically their founding principle).

Or put differently: saints haven't gotten stupider, but our standards have changed.

Edit: I have to put my own point into relation: the only saints that actually lived in the 21st century from that list seem to be a pope and 21 IS beheading victims, so yeah, even among those recently canonized saints a huge chunk has bean dead for 100+ years.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I still think that the idea of the church and saints hasn't gotten any worse: it's "just" that the rest of the world has moved on when they haven't

That's a very common way of an idea becoming worse: insisting on the same old delusion as the rest of the world moves on.

Example: A geocentric universe didn't seem like such a stupid idea a millennium or two ago, but nowadays where we know better, it's known to be absolute nonsense that only the blindest fundamentalist honestly believes.

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