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Madeline: Science denial really grinds my metaphorical gears, and Flat Earthers are some of the most egregious about it. So manhandle them into strait jackets and shove them in the damn rocket already.

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[-] maporita@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago

On the contrary, we need alternate opinions to sharpen our own arguments. Banning them leads to an echo chamber effect where nothing ever challenges our thinking.. which is a big part of the problems facing the world today.

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

We need to allow different opinions, sure. But, do we need more morons and conspiracy theorists? They feed and exist because of the amplifying factor of social media.

I usually welcome any challenges to my opinions, but I expect a minimum requirement for self reflection and critical thought. This doesn't pass that bar.

[-] all-knight-party@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

The other problem is that it's a slippery slope. Theoretically whoever would be in control of essentially killing these people would be the ones who make the final decision on who those people actually are.

With that level of power corruption will be unavoidable and people that are not even actually flat earthers will die as well due to their deaths being convenient in unrelated ways for the group that decides which flat earthers get jettisoned into space. I don't think anyone should have that power, humanity has more than proven by now that placing people into positions of that much power never works out squeaky clean.

[-] JunctionSystem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Madeline: To be clear, I want them to come back reasonably intact. I don't want them dead, I want to shatter their worldview.

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm... not advocating ... I don't think OP literally, hm. Maybe you meant to reply to OP?

[-] all-knight-party@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

I'm supporting you from another angle, not contesting you, my argument goes against OP's suggestion, and yeah I don't think OP was being literal, but it's a fun thought experiment

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, gotcha. As a thought experiment it falls on the same moral issues as with any capital punishment. The bigger problems I think are with how woefully unprepared society is for the incentives advertisement based social media has.

One might think, "what does advertisement have to do with this?". It turns out that outrage is much more engaging than any intellectual discourse that discusses nuances. So, Facebook and it's ilk amplifies all and any cancerous misinformation. Humans being malleable believe what they are exposed to, and measles outbreaks are now a thing again.

Flat earthers aren't the problem. Neither are Maga morons, Q-anons, anti-vaxxers. They aren't even the weakest souls. Humans aren't all that different. Just different circumstances. And, the problems are those that encourage and facilitate those circumstances. Put those in a shuttle destined to the sun.

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

If you were in their shoes you'd believe the same thing

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