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Employees say they weren’t adequately warned about the brutality of some of the text and images they would be tasked with reviewing, and were offered no or inadequate psychological support. Workers were paid between $1.46 and $3.74 an hour, according to a Sama spokesperson.

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[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 129 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Cool. Using slave labor to train tools to strip the best parts of humanity away from us so that AI can do creative activities like poetry and art while we're more and more stuck in a gig economy.

Cool cool cool cool.

[–] QHC@kbin.social 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

so that AI can do creative activities

Let me stop you right there. The current concept of "AI"--otherwise known as Large Language Models because that is really what people are referring to--is not capable of creativity. ChatGPT and things like it just regurgitate stuff they find. They can't create something new and original

[–] sunflower_scribe@beehaw.org 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It creates things. Whether it is truly “creative” in the sense that humans are “creative”, doesn’t really matter. Now, you might respond by saying that it only regurgitates, but I would argue that many if not all human creative outputs are, at least to some degree, “regurgitations” in the same sense. I am not disregarding art, just saying that art is always derivative to some degree.

[–] tombuben@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago (7 children)

It doesn't really matter though. It will take away jobs from people in creative industries that only creative people were able to do before. The end result is basically the same.

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[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago

I know it's not. That's why it's so sad that people are offloading creative work to it

[–] Thevenin@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is true that LLMs and DPMs do not create, they interpolate -- that's why training data and curation of that data is so critical to begin with. Nevertheless, it is correct to say they are being used for "creative activities" as cheap and (in my opinion) unsustainable substitutes for human minds.

[–] TheBurlapBandit@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

AI is about at creative as Adobe Photoshop is, or a pencil for that matter. A human operating it (no, not txt2img prompting) is where the creativity comes from.

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

tools to strip the best parts of humanity away from us so that AI can do creative activities like poetry and art

Yeah that's a bullshit take on AI

[–] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

But that's exactly what's happening. Bloodsucking capitalists have decided that AI is a cheaper option than paying people a living wage, so creatives are losing their jobs.

Instead of actually learning how to create art, shitbag grifters claim theyre "taking the power back from creatives" and doing nothing but stealing from actual creatives to make some sort of soulless synthesis, leaving actual creatives high and dry. For just one example, look at how many publishing outlets have stopped taking submissions because of the overwhelming flood of AI spam.

All the while people are out here trying to make ends meet and are being forced into shitty, low paid jobs or gig work

I think he/she was referring to the sole purpose of AI being developed is to create an additional subscription model that serves both ads and bullshit, locked to infrastructure of google or metas choice.

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[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's nothing to elaborate on. It's a stupid position put about by luddites and perpetuated by people with no understanding of the subject. It's so not on target it's not even wrong!

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago (15 children)

I'm a DevOps engineer. I work with big technology every day. I am very definitively not a Luddite. But the way the capitalists controlling our economy view and want to use AI is harmful to us, the lower and middle classes. I'm not sure which part of my view is so stupid that it enters into psuedoscience, leading me to not even being wrong

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[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The average cost of living is somewhere around $650 for one person, and those wages are a bit low but the higher end is above average for the country.

(I don't know how accurate this data is, but based on https://livingcost.org/cost/kenya/United-States)

I'm not saying they shouldn't be paid better or more, but those wages aren't as outlandish as they sound for the country.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

And here I must be crazy thinking if it is US company paying them, maybe they deserve the equivalent of US employees, no matter what the fucking local pay is.

That "local pay" bullshit is just an excuse to exploit. Pay them what you would have to pay a US citizen for the same job or fuck right off. They don't deserve less because of geographic location.

[–] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Local pay for an international company is theft

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