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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago

What's with these "no cops at Pride" comics?

[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

LGBT+ people have learned not to trust the police, and so will have a hard time relaxing and enjoying themselves if they are around.

Cops have motive, means and opportunity to abuse minorities they don't "approve" of. Therefore (and because of previous form) they have made themselves unwelcome.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago
[-] charonn0@startrek.website 7 points 6 months ago

But that's not the part I'm asking about.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 6 months ago

People don't want cops at pride events.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 6 months ago
[-] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago
[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 0 points 6 months ago

I'm genuinely not. Say what you mean, champ.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago

I'm obviously asking why no cops. I don't believe you didn't understand that. But clearly, you're not willing to discuss it, so I'll withdraw the question.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago

Ah, well that question has been answered by others and myself elsewhere in this thread. Sorry for assuming that you might have checked to see if your question was already answered before asking it.

But hey, just for you, I'll repost what I've already said:

Because the police enforce the laws of the state, often with violence. If the law dictates that a person being open about their identity is illegal regardless of the fact their identity harms no one, and everyone involved in their actions consents, than it is the responsibility of the cops to oppress them. One year the cops might march alongside people at pride, and then the laws might change and they’ll be there to bust heads of anyone who shows up the next year. 
 
And yeah, there no doubt exist LGBTQ+ cops, or cops whose friends and/or family whom they love are LGBTQ+, but so long as they wear the uniform they represent an organization used to oppress marginalized and minority communities. 
 
Fundamentally, pride is not just a party, it is a protest.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website -1 points 6 months ago

That utterly misses the point of Pride. It's not about revenge, it's about reconciliation. It's not about hatred, it's about love. It's not about divisiveness, it's about coming together. It's a good thing that police, etc. want to be in our parades. Excluding them actively harms the progress LGBT+ people have made since Stonewall.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 months ago

Queer folk don't owe their oppressors space, especially, whilst their oppressors are still actively targeting them.

[-] redisdead@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Excluding police from pride events ensures the safety of citizens participating in these events.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 8 points 6 months ago

Who said anything about revenge?

[-] charonn0@startrek.website -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh, FFS. Never mind.

[-] redisdead@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Cops are generally shitty people who don't belong in any places where citizens express themselves.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

The Stonewall riots is a good place to start your history studies on the matter.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks for your completely sincere suggestion, which I'm sure was made in a good faith effort to have a mature and intelligent discussion on this topic, but I'm actually very well versed in LGBT+ history already.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Oh, so you're just trolling then, because I was answering honestly and you were asking in bad faith to be a troll.

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