Any full loot/pvp base building mmos out there? (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by ericbomb@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

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So I really liked games like:

Wurmonline (Never really panned out the way I wanted, last I checked years ago no one really pvp'd)

Salem the Game (Not the popular social deduction game)

Eve Online (I hype fixate hard on Eve so gotta stay away from it. Also the P2W was disgusting)

Rust, but it not being an mmo was always a turn off as individual servers seemed to always have weird issues. Maybe it's better now though.

Any suggestions for MMO's I should check out? I wanna be able to be a little guy and built a little house, then join a group and go raiding. No pay to win stuff if it's possible.

Any good games like that out and about?

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[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I see gold is for sale in the shop, is store bought gold a big influence in the game? Or pretty irrelevant?

[-] daniyeg@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

i haven't played it that much since my ping was atrocious, but i would say no. IIRC beside membership and cosmetics that you can buy with gold, i think you can covert it into silver which you can use to progress faster and even buy gear but you won't gain an unfair advantage or get something that's exclusive to the MTX shop.

you should read what experienced players have written if you want a more detailed explanation, im just sort of vaguely familiar with the game.

[-] bogosort@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Pretty much the same as PLEX in Eve. If that was p2w for you, then this will be p2w for you too.

Actually come to think of it, it's worse in the regard that gold prices have an impact on the game. The lower the conversion rate of gold to silver drops below 1:5000 the higher the global discount on repairs, travel, islands etc.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I mean... in eve you were allowed to straight up buy perfect characters or skill injectors, then the isk to buy a ship. So you could have a newbie with the same character power as a 3 year old player.

My brain does not like grinding games with strong P2W aspects, it messes with me.

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah but that person would suck. A player with experience will beat a credit card warrior every time.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Brain says bad. Because I'll be there, working on trying to get a new shiny ship and then the brain is like... "You make 40$ an hour overtime. That's a lot more ship than doing this." or "instead of checking in on your skill queue every day for two years to make sure it's optimal $300 worth of plex and you have your dream toon. "

And yeah... I know myself. I need to avoid games that make that lil voice pop up.

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Entirely fair objection. I've won eve too and at least partially due to increasing monotization

[-] bogosort@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

Albion has "skill injectors" too. There are tradeable tomes with which, if you were to spend enough money on it, you could almost max your character.

Keep in mind I'm just trying to paint you a picture here, so you can decide whether it fits for you. I'd still recommend trying Albion. It's a small install and free to try after all.